timing chain failure AFTER the BMW fix
timing chain failure AFTER the BMW fix
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TooLateForAName

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4,935 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Just a heads up really.

N47 bmw320d had the QE fix done by bmw,

chain snapped yesterday. So dont rely on the 'fix' to actually fix it.

Higgs boson

1,105 posts

184 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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How many miles since "the fix"?

Mr Tidy

31,818 posts

158 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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TooLateForAName said:
Just a heads up really.

N47 bmw320d had the QE fix done by bmw,

chain snapped yesterday. So dont rely on the 'fix' to actually fix it.
That doesn't sound good. eek

I hope you can get it sorted at their expense. thumbup

hilly10

7,543 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Bloody hell. Will be interesting to know mileage

Jaybmw

325 posts

112 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Done the chain and not the crank I'd say which led to the again failure

TooLateForAName

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4,935 posts

215 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Its done about 20K since BMW did the work now on 180k - of course I don't know what they actually did.

I've got someone going to have a look at it, but I'm assuming it's junk.

I'd not heard that the crank was an issue - I had heard that the camshafts were a problem and I know that there have been several revisions of camshaft on the engines.
edit: just had look on realoem - looks like the crank was revised in 2014 so if that is the issue there are a lot of engines out there with is waiting to go pop.

I really thought that having had the QE done was making it safe.

From my point of view this is a real stter. I sold it to a friend of the family before xmas and it went bang on him on the A1. I've just done a bank xfr to refund him. Need to have a look at if its worth breaking or selling as is.

Edited by TooLateForAName on Sunday 14th January 10:48

Elliot2000

786 posts

207 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Where in the uk are you? I might be interested in buying it as a project

iSore

4,011 posts

175 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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The B47 arrived in 2014, and really, it's only the early stuff that had wrongly machined crank sprockets. It depends on whether the whole lot was changed as often it's only the top one. It may also be the oil pump chain that's snapped, done its swiss roll impression and taken the lower chain with it.

180'000 isn't such a bad run for one of these stters though. What model is it? (E90-F30)

hilly10

7,543 posts

259 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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That’s epic mileage

crankedup

25,764 posts

274 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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^^^^
It might be for one of these engines but for context our Skoda 1.9 fabia has just passed 200,000. iles and running sweetly.Yes a skoda!

hilly10

7,543 posts

259 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Nowt wrong with Skoda, my mates company only run Superbs and Octavias all have trouble free high mileage lives.

twokcc

1,032 posts

208 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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TooLateForAName said:
Its done about 20K since BMW did the work now on 180k - of course I don't know what they actually did.

I've got someone going to have a look at it, but I'm assuming it's junk.

I'd not heard that the crank was an issue - I had heard that the camshafts were a problem and I know that there have been several revisions of camshaft on the engines.
edit: just had look on realoem - looks like the crank was revised in 2014 so if that is the issue there are a lot of engines out there with is waiting to go pop.

I really thought that having had the QE done was making it safe.

From my point of view this is a real stter. I sold it to a friend of the family before xmas and it went bang on him on the A1. I've just done a bank xfr to refund him. Need to have a look at if its worth breaking or selling as is.

Edited by TooLateForAName on Sunday 14th January 10:48
From your mileage sounds as if less than 2 years ago wont this be covered by BMW parts warranty. Not going to be an easy claim but they must have record of work done. If you let someone else look at it BMW will immediately wash there hand of any responsibility for any claim

TooLateForAName

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4,935 posts

215 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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hilly10 said:
That’s epic mileage
Not really. first owner did 120K in 3 years which isn't that uncommon for an exec company car. I've had loads of cars with similar mileages. Saab 9000, Audi's, peugeot partner, etc.

With modern engineering, manufacturing and lubricants there is no reason that a car engine shouldn't be capable of 200K +. For an engine to terminally lunch itself is pretty piss poor.

Remember that this is a chain - supposed to be reliable. There are lots of cars out there with belts that have a change interval of 140K.

Sticks.

9,724 posts

282 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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twokcc said:
From your mileage sounds as if less than 2 years ago wont this be covered by BMW parts warranty? Not going to be an easy claim but they must have record of work done. If you let someone else look at it BMW will immediately wash there hand of any responsibility for any claim
I'd have thought this too. Is it less than 2 years since the repair?

AllyBassman

779 posts

143 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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What year is the car?

crankedup

25,764 posts

274 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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hilly10 said:
Nowt wrong with Skoda, my mates company only run Superbs and Octavias all have trouble free high mileage lives.
Abso.utely nothing wrong with skoda, we have ran ours for ten years now. My point is that BMW are supposed to be a premium German brand and yet we keep hearing the woes of BMW owners regards these major mechanical issues.
I own a BMW as well and it’s a lovely car to drive, streets ahead of our skoda.

bmwmike

8,788 posts

139 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Considering BMW's history with using chains you'd think they'd not make such a feck up.

SebringMan

1,774 posts

217 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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bmwmike said:
Considering BMW's history with using chains you'd think they'd not make such a feck up.
They have a few hiccups under their belt, like boot floors than fall out of E46s, manifold swirl flap issues and of course the dreaded security bypasses.

That said, they are not the only German brand to have issues.