Baby #2 due any day, nappies win over SAAB MPG
Baby #2 due any day, nappies win over SAAB MPG
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goldngoose

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8 posts

96 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I'm not going crazy am I? Our big '06 9-5 Aero Auto Estate, £70 = 300 miles till the red light comes on, sometimes it's 350 miles, never 400.

Hark I hear Diesel.

My work car, an insignia CDTI, £70 = 700 miles, mixed driving, always in a hurry, 80 cruising speed.

Fuel on a driving on a trip to Gods country costs half using the Insignia. Half!

The SAAB needs to go, aye it only does 12,000 miles a year but the fuel costs are too much, the way I see it I could save £70 plus in fuel a month plus I'd have to save something on road tax.

I can pick up a nice '07 9-5 diesel, decent spec, fully serviced, £600.

I cannae understand the stance on keeping a petrol (Aero) over a diesel save for driving and booting it pleasure, but nappies are needed.....

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

127 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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When No. 2 arrived in our household I was running a 155 V6 and a 164 Cloverleaf.

We used proper nappies.

goldngoose

Original Poster:

8 posts

96 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Touché

goldngoose

Original Poster:

8 posts

96 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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My wife drives the Aero daily, over the past 5000+ miles its showing an average of 24mpg.

You're right though, the Aero doesn't go to Scotland anymore.

Alex_225

7,304 posts

222 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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My dad car is a old E320 CDI Merc as for long drives (bulk of my mileage) it's ideal, will do a genuine 45mpg and see 800 miles to a tank.

I get that the price difference of fuel/new cost can outweigh savings but when you're talking an old car that's a few grand, that's marginal really. Plus if a hefty diesel can do descent mileage and actually be relatively quick it's a descent compromise for family duties.


strain

419 posts

122 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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but an old diesel will have other issues which can cost more to fix.

Buying new(ish) and doing good miles - diesel

want a reliable older car - petrol

Will the diesel give you as many smiles per gallon?

goldngoose

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8 posts

96 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Agreed the diesel will not match the smiles of a turbo petrol.

You are correct, my wife drives mainly short trips daily - 10 miles into town then back etc, along with an 90 motorway trip each Saturday.

£70 for 300 miles though, our outgoings could do with trimming down and this is an obvious one to me.

My favorite oil burner was years ago a Pug 406 HDI with all the toys, it was cheap to run.

Valid points RE parts potentialy failing on older diesels and being more expensive to repair but buying a car is always a bit like that regardless if you really know your stuff or not, you roll the dice and take the ride

rainmakerraw

1,225 posts

147 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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goldngoose said:
Agreed the diesel will not match the smiles of a turbo petrol.

You are correct, my wife drives mainly short trips daily - 10 miles into town then back etc, along with an 90 motorway trip each Saturday.

£70 for 300 miles though, our outgoings could do with trimming down and this is an obvious one to me.

My favorite oil burner was years ago a Pug 406 HDI with all the toys, it was cheap to run.

Valid points RE parts potentialy failing on older diesels and being more expensive to repair but buying a car is always a bit like that regardless if you really know your stuff or not, you roll the dice and take the ride
Going by the mileages and fuel costs in your OP, if you got an older diesel to do literally double the MPG of your current car (unlikely?) then you'd be spending £26 a week instead of £52 (ish). Is it really worth the hassle, the gamble and the loss of a flexible engine for £25 a week - savings that would be wiped out in one bill should you get one? Only you can answer that question.

goldngoose

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8 posts

96 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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rainmakerraw said:
Going by the mileages and fuel costs in your OP, if you got an older diesel to do literally double the MPG of your current car (unlikely?) then you'd be spending £26 a week instead of £52 (ish). Is it really worth the hassle, the gamble and the loss of a flexible engine for £25 a week - savings that would be wiped out in one bill should you get one? Only you can answer that question.
As I mentioned before, agreed. but using your rough £25 per week, that's a potential £100 in the bank a month.

I'm rolling the dice, I cant afford to run the Aero though it's a great and smooth drive. Perhaps a non Aero, 2.0 manual 9-5 could be the answer.

The weekend run that I mentioned to the swimming pool, that would clear a DPF & EGR after a week of short journeys?

Better the devil you know and all that but the Aero needs to go.


Equus

16,980 posts

122 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I've got an '07 9-5 Aero that came to me already converted to LPG, that I use as a dogwagon.

The LPG tank gives a range of about 200 miles between refills, and seems to cost about £26 a time to refill. Best of both worlds - Aero performance with better-than-diesel economy?

HustleRussell

26,018 posts

181 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Saab has a low value, it's safe and it's known to you. Do you really want to enter the second hand diesel bear pit at this time?

C70R

17,596 posts

125 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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goldngoose said:
£70 for 300 miles though
That's a horrorshow.
On a long 75-80 motorway cruise, my E46 330ci will deliver 460+ miles to a 14 gal tank (33mpg). That's a 3ltr petrol engine, with 230bhp, in a 1500+kg car.

Stop/start around Central London is a different story, and is probably closer to 20mpg (my long-term average floats around 24-25mpg). But I struggle to see how the Saab can be so uneconomical.

Edited by C70R on Saturday 20th January 11:01

Toed64

299 posts

141 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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A family car will be used for lots of short trips - don't go for a diesel with DPF.

A 1.9tdi A4, Golf or Passat will return 40 to 50mpg all the time and they rarely break down if basic maintenance is kept up.