987 Boxster Spyder buying advice

[andyP123456]

Looking for advice on buying a 987 Spyder. Looked at the cars for sale at Cameron Sports Cars and Park Lane Motors Alton like both.... which one do you guys like. And which of the others on PH do you think should look at. Also any thoughts on the ceramic breaks. Going to pull the trigger on a car in me t week or so

Edited by andyP123456 on Tuesday 23 January 22:53

[DJMC]

andyP123456 said:

Also any thoughts on the carbon breaks.

I snapped a pencil in half once. Just bought another one, no worries.

[espritgt3]

Hi, I’d be looking at the private sale, white, manual, buckets, PSE car in Essex currently advertised.
Just my opinion of course, enjoy your search.
Here’s mine before she got put away for winter.

[overunder12g]

Would rather check out the BRAKES
Pedant, but rather important if you need them.

[andyP123456]

DJMC said:

andyP123456 said:

Also any thoughts on the carbon breaks.

I snapped a pencil in half once. Just bought another one, no worries.

Haha ok so I wrote carbon instead of ceramic ... senior moment after a rather nice curry 😂😂😂

[Bedlamater]

Everyone has their own preferences but I’d say a 987 Spyder is at it’s best in white, manual gearbox with SS, buckets and PSE, anything extra on top of that is a bonus...

Maybe I would say that as thats what mine is/has, plus PCCBs and a bit more leather. I wouldn’t say it’s worth paying more for a car with them, but as long as you don’t damage them in an accident or some muppet doesn’t chip/crack them when taking a wheel off for whatever reason (which is hard but certainly possible) then it’s hard not to see the benefit when they could quite easily last 100k miles... Are they a better performing break than steels, not really.

You should take a look at this car. Owned by two PHers, I nearly bought it last year when it was sold buy an OPC, but was pipped to it! Still has over a years Porsche warranty left on it.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Hope that helps a bit...

[andyP123456]

anonymous said:

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Thanks for comments especially the warranty will ask some questions this morning.

[mr pg]

anonymous said:

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Not if the op prefers/wants pdk it's not.

[Porsche911R]

PCCB every time if you can get them, because the brakes are the worst thing about the Car, people will try and fix poor brakes with GT3 MC (lol) but they over heat so it just masks a bigger problem, the PCCB on this car has the 6 pot 996GT3 calipers, so if you don't like ceramic disks, just buy some steels

to convert this car to 6 pots would cost you £££ and I mean >£7k for both ends upgraded.

So PCCB is a win win a free upgrade worth thousands imo and fixes the weakest link, poor brake heat management , fading brakes etc !!! as you can now fit 350MM steels and have the 6 pots from a GT3 !

PDK is a free choice of course , but you will never sell it on , that's ok if its a keeper and that's what you want, but it's a dead duck on this car for resale.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

or the top555 car with the buckets.

only 2 cars worth having imo.

lets have some pics :-), I even think Mr Walter Rohrl owns one

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 24th January 08:43

[left4dead]

Andy, are you after manual or PDK?

If manual, here's mine at the MOT station last January (it'll be back there again on Saturday):



It will be coming up for sale once whether has improved enough to take some decent pics.

I can mail more details if needed (car is at home in Surrey).

[Big E 118]

The Cameron Sports Cars car looks good.

I've had a few nice cars over the years and the only one I regret selling is my Spyder, loved that car and the V10 R8 that replaced it couldn't match the feel good factor. I will buy another one at some point to add to the garage.

The only thing worth adding from my experience was that I had the carbon bucket seats and found them really comfortable but my wife hated them and could never get comfortable. We did one Euro tour together which she complained all the way, she never came away in the Spyder again....... shame ....

[Bedlamater]

Porsche911R said:

PDK is a free choice of course , but you will never sell it on , that's ok if its a keeper and that's what you want, but it's a dead duck on this car for resale.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 24th January 08:43

True...

[boxsey]

anonymous said:

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This is the true the post (not the one above it!).

[Bedlamater]

anonymous said:

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In relation to the 987 spyder the PDK is simply not the box to have in terms of overall desirabilit, just like not having buckets... Absolutely nothing wrong with the box, as mentioned it’s personal choice, but PDK spyders sell for less, hang about on forcourts for longer etc. A good car dealer will make a turn on most vehicles and not every punter is the same, so of course they’ll give them a go. So if you are looking for some summer fun and could be in and out of the car within a few months then you can expect to find it harder to shift your spyder and you’ll be likely to lose more money if it is PDK.

[Porsche911R]

anonymous said:

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It's not bks though, there is one PDK OPC car for sale no manuals, and many 3rd party dealer PDK's for sale and have been for months !!

With the R there are about 12 PDK cars for sale , only 2 manuals and 4 OPC PDK cars for sale and NO Manuals.
997 GTS just about all PDK car stuck for sale and have been months , manuals last days if not hours unless Hexagon get to price them.

Dealers are stuck with cars and don't always know the market sorry to say, which is good if you plan to sell a PDK car to a dealer ;-)

PDK out sell new car sales, this market is fickle and the manual cars are the sellers.

If you personally think that's bks that's fine :-) it's just your opinion over what is actually going on/selling out in the real world lol


Manual Spyder and R last days at OPC's and normally at 911V, PDK just don't sell well.
Same with the 997 GTS no manual cars for sale bar Hexagon and about >15 PDK cars.

Ashgoods only have PDK cars left, 4 of them ! .

But lets not open our eyes, of course if you talk to a dealer they will say they PDK sell well that's all they have for sale lol

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 24th January 15:03

[Cheib]

What R says about manual gearbox cars is totally true in my opinion. I bought my manual 997 GTS from an OPC two years ago (this is before Hexagon got hold of the GTS) when if anything they were at a small discount to PDK cars. I put a deposit down not having seen a picture and before the dealer had prepped it having missed out on 9ne a couple of m9nths previously. Since the any manual GTS half sensibly priced hasn’t remained on the market for more than a few days. Manual cars are now at a circa 10pct premium and I’ve read more than once on here that people who have a 991 and then go back to a 997 because they prefer it “as a 911” find the PDK box the one thing they don’t like about the 997. In a year’s time the PDK in 997/987 will be two generations from the latest gen PDK and will start to really date in my opinion....the PDK and the PCM are the two things that date this generation of car....the latter can be fixed, the former can’t.

[andyP123456]

Well I’ve gone and pulled the trigger on the white one and a PDK at that so guess I will now be an outcast on these forums ??. Have owned and driven both manuals Cayman S and GT4 and PDK 911, Boxster and Cayman and have enjoyed both transmissions immensely even drove a TIPTRONIC not something I would want to do again!! Sorry but Porsche’s of all varieties put a smile on my face as soon as I sit in the seat or even on the odd occasions the chairs that some cars fitted in them. Must admit the buckets in this car are very comfortable and can’t wait to get driving. Having done Stelvio in a manual I agree they’re a fantastic machine but also having toured with a PDK for several thousand miles across Europe the driving is so easy. So now have to start planning the first of my 987 road trips . Hopefully I won’t be shot down too quickly for not going PCCB and buying a PDK and be celebrated for going white not black... anyways will post pics when collected and out on our travels

Edited by andyP123456 on Wednesday 24th January 18:46

[Porsche911R]

anonymous said:

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guys like these buy any car which they know has a margin, all these dealers have stuck PDK stock which I guess they paid less for than manual stock.

every cars sells at the right price ashtere is a bum for every seat, but you only have to open your eyes a bit and see what is moving faster and what is staying put, OPC have no Manual R or Spdyers for sale and when they do they don't hang about, the 997 GTS is in the same park as these 2 cars, it's not one rule for one and one rule for another.

all 3 cars sell faster and are rarer in manual form and as both made the same number about 100 each PDK and R and SPyders why are PDK cars all stale sales ?

[Pauly-b]

Porsche911R said:

guys like these buy any car which they know has a margin, all these dealers have stuck PDK stock which I guess they paid less for than manual stock.

That’s really interesting.. and as I’m starting to talk to dealers now about selling my car I’d like to be fully prepared obviously for a low part exchange..

Could you share your detailed analysis over say the past six months on the trade in / buying and selling cost differences and patterns between PDK and Manual Cayman R’s please... That would be really useful...

[Frrair]

Nice job Andy

I am sure you will enjoy it.

White just looks right, he’s a pic of mine.



I love it’s just a real bundle of fizzy fun.