Porsche rethinking its lineup???

[RDMcG]

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/911s-future-secu...

Article reports that the future of the 718 may not be too bright......Porsche is now part of the broader VAG strategy so not the small independent organization it used to be....

[Cheib]

Cars are gong to be utterly soulless inside 10 years.

[RDMcG]

Cheib said:

Cars are gong to be utterly soulless inside 10 years.

You can still get the buzz!....from the electric motor...................

[browngt3]

I guess in 10 years the Porsche sports car line up will be hybrid 911s and a fully electric sports car. No Boxster or Cayman. Probably the whole range will have an electric power train of some kind. A hybrid GT3? there's a thought....

[gtsralph]

No brand entry point, straight to 911? Hmmm, loss of volume on common parts?

[RDMcG]

browngt3 said:

I guess in 10 years the Porsche sports car line up will be hybrid 911s and a fully electric sports car. No Boxster or Cayman. Probably the whole range will have an electric power train of some kind. A hybrid GT3? there's a thought....

I wonder how long there N/A GT3 will last. I suspect through the 992 models but no more. Regulations are continually tightening, and as the article mentions it is more than emissions...its noise too. The sound of my old Mezger rattling like an enamel basin full of bolts at idle and then a scream at full tilt is already pretty much a thing of the past, and will be a distant memory. So, Ill keep it.

[Frrair]

The answers to these questions are contained below.

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/porsches-reinven...

[CarreraLightweightRacing]

Frrair said:

The answers to these questions are contained below.

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/porsches-reinven...

Tragic:

"Sadly, the 992 GT3 is expected to lose its intoxicating naturally aspirated 4.0-liter engine in favor of a twin-turbo 3.8-liter flat six."

[RDMcG]

CarreraLightweightRacing said:

Tragic:

"Sadly, the 992 GT3 is expected to lose its intoxicating naturally aspirated 4.0-liter engine in favor of a twin-turbo 3.8-liter flat six."

At least there is a high survival rate of older cars, and I suspect that the somewhat diminishing demand of millennial generation will ensure that there are enough of them for drivers.

[Jim1556]

CarreraLightweightRacing said:

Tragic:

"Sadly, the 992 GT3 is expected to lose its intoxicating naturally aspirated 4.0-liter engine in favor of a twin-turbo 3.8-liter flat six."

Just the thought of it...

[tjlees]

CarreraLightweightRacing said:

Tragic:

"Sadly, the 992 GT3 is expected to lose its intoxicating naturally aspirated 4.0-liter engine in favor of a twin-turbo 3.8-liter flat six."

Porsche will sell whatever there is a demand for - 911R and 911 GT3 Emmanuel touring have shown this - so mainstream may go phev and turbo but short runs of NA should survive if there is enough demand and profit.

I’ve got the greatest intention of keeping my aid-less track toys for as long as poss

[Taffy66]

Whatever means of propulsion Porsches will utilise in the future will be irrelevant for fun on public roads..The main culprit for lack of fun on UK roads currently is sheer congestion,enduring sht drivers who want to dice with 500hp Porsches in their 100hp hatches and over zealous coppers who get brownie points for booking Porkers.
If this country continues on this course i will seriously consider emigrating to a more Porsche driving friendly country.
As far as future Porsches are concerned i have every confidence they will continue to be better to drive than all its competition regardless of its power source..
I have a LOI with my OPC for the new Mission E which i'm eagerly anticipating..
I'm hoping my new RS will be a keeper and will be a refreshing change from driving the Mission E.

The future is bright..

[RDMcG]

tjlees said:

Porsche will sell whatever there is a demand for - 911R and 911 GT3 Emmanuel touring have shown this - so mainstream may go phev and turbo but short runs of NA should survive if there is enough demand and profit.

I’ve got the greatest intention of keeping my aid-less track toys for as long as poss

I think the challenge will be regulation as well as demand...it will just become so difficult to produce cars that meet the increasing crush of rules. Just look at how all front-engined cars had to become blunt-nosed monsters to see the pedestrian crush regulations. The legislators are in the main not enthusiasts for cars at all, let alone performance cars. You have France and Germany among others predicting that they will ban the ICE entirely ultimately.

[browngt3]

Taffy66 said:

Whatever means of propulsion Porsches will utilise in the future will be irrelevant for fun on public roads..The main culprit for lack of fun on UK roads currently is sheer congestion,enduring sht drivers who want to dice with 500hp Porsches in their 100hp hatches and over zealous coppers who get brownie points for booking Porkers.
If this country continues on this course i will seriously consider emigrating to a more Porsche driving friendly country.
As far as future Porsches are concerned i have every confidence they will continue to be better to drive than all its competition regardless of its power source..
I have a LOI with my OPC for the new Mission E which i'm eagerly anticipating..
I'm hoping my new RS will be a keeper and will be a refreshing change from driving the Mission E.

The future is bright..

Agree with your sentiments there.

Must admit although I have some trepidation regarding EV and autonomous, as a hard core Porsche fan I do have confidence they won't disappoint us in the foreseeable future.

Mission E and an RS is an interesting combination

[isaldiri]

RDMcG said:

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/911s-future-secu...

Article reports that the future of the 718 may not be too bright......Porsche is now part of the broader VAG strategy so not the small independent organization it used to be....

Porsche haven't been a small independent organisation for a very long time....

[Yellow491]

isaldiri said:

Porsche haven't been a small independent organisation for a very long time....

It used to be a small company a very long time ago!
Most of porsche engine development is now electric/hybrid,when all the race cars goes electric there will be no need for homologation specials,so bye bye gt cars

[Klippie]

Truthfully I don't care what happens to the Cayman and Boxster...after the abomination of the the flat four there's not much left to ruin on these cars, let them die at least there is a decent stock of flat six cars around that should keep us going for a while.

An electric sports car, forget it...the future will be sanitized electric vehicles driven autonomously that's what the tree huggers want so it will happen.

[Porsche911R]

Klippie said:

Truthfully I don't care what happens to the Cayman and Boxster...after the abomination of the the flat four there's not much left to ruin on these cars, let them die at least there is a decent stock of flat six cars around that should keep us going for a while.

An electric sports car, forget it...the future will be sanitized electric vehicles driven autonomously that's what the tree huggers want so it will happen.

while I dislike automation in cars, electric cars doing 1.9 seconds to 60 and 4 to 100 is quite exciting imo.

Have you been in the new Tesla, it makes you feel sick lol I have been in 918's and Ruf CTR way past 200mph but doing 0-80 in a Tesla is eye opening.

A push to over take kers system In a sports car works for me in at least one of the cars I own.

Also these TAX regs are pushing people out the market , even the Baby Elise is £800 to tax in the 1st year now and is only going up !!!

GT3 already £2k to TAX, if you own 3 or 4 cars it's crazy upkeep.

I can see myself out of cars again and back on a Ducati v4 speciale, no road jams and 226 BHP !!!!
keep my 987.2 car for reel feel and have a sub 2 second electric sports car.

£35k gets you into the la Ferrari of the bike world and way over 1000bhp/ton lol

[Bennachie]

Ah......., my first love....

[RDMcG]

I think it wil change all of our decisiosn in time, no doubt. Not ready for a Mission E just yet, so picking up a new non-hybrid Sport Turismo Turbo tomorrow, probably my last conventional gasoline powered V8, and a station wagon at that.

In the future I am sure thing will change but I have plenty 0f ICE in the garage, so will enjoy them when I can.