Discovery 4 replacement
Discussion
Morning
As title suggests, looking for a D4 replacement.
Most of its use is on dual carriageway although the tracks up to the house are pretty agricultural. Rwd can and do get stuck on them.
Need decent payload. Adjustable ride height useful.
Appreciate that a big 4x4 estate would be ideal but that is a battle I have lost. Many times.
Budget ideally £25k but would consider a bit more (or less)
Previously had a couple of grand Cherokees which we liked. New one looks light years ahead.
Also previously had an x5 which was pretty good despite no adjustable ride height.
Thoughts appreciated. It’s for my wife so image wise she is very insistent it can’t look like a mum on the school run car (which is what she will be doing) apparently q7 is a prime offender for that and has been ruled out accordingly.
2013 onwards. Must be auto. Evoque and q7 have been ruled out.
Cheers
As title suggests, looking for a D4 replacement.
Most of its use is on dual carriageway although the tracks up to the house are pretty agricultural. Rwd can and do get stuck on them.
Need decent payload. Adjustable ride height useful.
Appreciate that a big 4x4 estate would be ideal but that is a battle I have lost. Many times.
Budget ideally £25k but would consider a bit more (or less)
Previously had a couple of grand Cherokees which we liked. New one looks light years ahead.
Also previously had an x5 which was pretty good despite no adjustable ride height.
Thoughts appreciated. It’s for my wife so image wise she is very insistent it can’t look like a mum on the school run car (which is what she will be doing) apparently q7 is a prime offender for that and has been ruled out accordingly.
2013 onwards. Must be auto. Evoque and q7 have been ruled out.
Cheers
Puzzled by thread tbh. Lots of decent D4 around for that sort of money, it's a good spacious vehicle with decent presence and drive, not got the bad image that others have, as mentioned in OP
Coupled with that I'm having trouble figuring out what sort of agricultural lanes that require a large off roader with variable height suspension to avoid getting stuck that aren't an issue to a 997 C2 or a Merc CLS.
Seems like a non issue to me, just buy a newer D4.
Coupled with that I'm having trouble figuring out what sort of agricultural lanes that require a large off roader with variable height suspension to avoid getting stuck that aren't an issue to a 997 C2 or a Merc CLS.
Seems like a non issue to me, just buy a newer D4.
Thanks for replies.
Fair point re managing to get c2/cls up drives. Main drive up to house is pretty flat, it’s drives to rear that are very rutted and slippy in the wet. You can get a rwd along them (used to manage in an esprit) but it’s a pain. Just being lazy really. Plus we do get deep snow on occasion (Northumbria moors)
Agree last of the d4s is the obvious choice but given most of the time it is on dc it feels a bit like overkill. Lugging a 2 tonne house brick around. Also it’s a big out thing to park and manoeuvre. That said, touch wood, ours has been very reliable.
ETA that makes the house sound like toad hall. Far from it. Old farm with a couple of access roads from the main road!
Fair point re managing to get c2/cls up drives. Main drive up to house is pretty flat, it’s drives to rear that are very rutted and slippy in the wet. You can get a rwd along them (used to manage in an esprit) but it’s a pain. Just being lazy really. Plus we do get deep snow on occasion (Northumbria moors)
Agree last of the d4s is the obvious choice but given most of the time it is on dc it feels a bit like overkill. Lugging a 2 tonne house brick around. Also it’s a big out thing to park and manoeuvre. That said, touch wood, ours has been very reliable.
ETA that makes the house sound like toad hall. Far from it. Old farm with a couple of access roads from the main road!
Edited by Deendog on Monday 29th January 09:19
I went from a D4 to a Subaru Outback. No regrets and the only thing I miss is the drop down tailgate. Looked at the D5 and wasn't impressed, the standard kit makes it feel like a 90's relic. Standard stuff on the Outback are £1000 options on the Disco. Bit of a joke if you ask me. If you want a D4 replacement, then you won't find one at a Land Rover dealership.
Edit - unless you want another D4 that is!
ps, also rural Northumberland here.
Edit - unless you want another D4 that is!
ps, also rural Northumberland here.
FiF said:
Puzzled by thread tbh. Lots of decent D4 around for that sort of money, it's a good spacious vehicle with decent presence and drive, not got the bad image that others have, as mentioned in OP
Coupled with that I'm having trouble figuring out what sort of agricultural lanes that require a large off roader with variable height suspension to avoid getting stuck that aren't an issue to a 997 C2 or a Merc CLS.
Seems like a non issue to me, just buy a newer D4.
Ha! A 997 would get trashed! You’d have constant punctures (hedge cutting and general crap on the lanes) and smash the alloys to pieces (I live in a similar environment a mile down a farm track). Coupled with that I'm having trouble figuring out what sort of agricultural lanes that require a large off roader with variable height suspension to avoid getting stuck that aren't an issue to a 997 C2 or a Merc CLS.
Seems like a non issue to me, just buy a newer D4.
Back on topic, Land Cruiser. I ran one for 7 years and 160K miles (LC120, now LC150). Faultless. Should never have sold it. I don’t think there is a better proper 4x4 available. If you want to downsize a bit, Subaru Forester (only 20mm less ground clearance than a Land Cruiser and hugely capable). If you want more on road bias, look at an Audi Allroad. My wife has just taken delivery of one for distance use (A4). Initial impressions are very good, but obviously it’s an estate. Horses for courses...
Yes lc was top of my list but for 25k you are looking at an older car. Not an issue for me but missus will not be keen I suspect.
A4 allroad was also high in my list but she has pathological hated of estates.
Is last of the old shape rrs any better than d4 in terms of size and mpg on dc?
A4 allroad was also high in my list but she has pathological hated of estates.
Is last of the old shape rrs any better than d4 in terms of size and mpg on dc?
Deendog said:
Yes lc was top of my list but for 25k you are looking at an older car. Not an issue for me but missus will not be keen I suspect.
A4 allroad was also high in my list but she has pathological hated of estates.
Is last of the old shape rrs any better than d4 in terms of size and mpg on dc?
Sounds like you’ve got quite a challenge on your hands! I was also going to suggest the Outback, but not quite as refined as the Allroad and also an estate! A4 allroad was also high in my list but she has pathological hated of estates.
Is last of the old shape rrs any better than d4 in terms of size and mpg on dc?
Take a look at a Forester, you might be surprised. Will do 45mpg on a run and get you through pretty much anything a harsh winter will throw at you. Nicely understated as well.
How about a Toyota Hilux or Mitsubishi L200 double cab?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Edited by pavarotti1980 on Monday 29th January 11:06
2nd vote for a Subaru Outback - I've run and my wife has abused them for 10+ years and they have been alomost completely trouble-free...unlike any of the LRs I've had. Super-comfortable, economical (for a 4x4) and I've never been stuck, even with 2 horses in the trailer.
If that's not big enough, I'd buy a Landcruiser before I'd buy another Disco.
If that's not big enough, I'd buy a Landcruiser before I'd buy another Disco.
Edited by Toed64 on Thursday 1st February 09:14
Volvo lovely lovely looking thing
In answer to willy nilly the main drive (which postman etc uses) is fine, normal flat gravel drive. There are other drives around the place that are heavily rutted and very steep in places. We also occasionally do drive off the tracks and into fields (rarely admittedly)
You can pick your way up and down the tracks in a low clearance car but takes a while and can get stuck if it’s muddy or icy.
In answer to willy nilly the main drive (which postman etc uses) is fine, normal flat gravel drive. There are other drives around the place that are heavily rutted and very steep in places. We also occasionally do drive off the tracks and into fields (rarely admittedly)
You can pick your way up and down the tracks in a low clearance car but takes a while and can get stuck if it’s muddy or icy.
Deendog said:
Volvo lovely lovely looking thing
In answer to willy nilly the main drive (which postman etc uses) is fine, normal flat gravel drive. There are other drives around the place that are heavily rutted and very steep in places. We also occasionally do drive off the tracks and into fields (rarely admittedly)
You can pick your way up and down the tracks in a low clearance car but takes a while and can get stuck if it’s muddy or icy.
buy a hack for the estate then and get something like the volvo or jap for road use. be cheaper. In answer to willy nilly the main drive (which postman etc uses) is fine, normal flat gravel drive. There are other drives around the place that are heavily rutted and very steep in places. We also occasionally do drive off the tracks and into fields (rarely admittedly)
You can pick your way up and down the tracks in a low clearance car but takes a while and can get stuck if it’s muddy or icy.
Sounds like you both are sure what you don't want but have no idea what you want :-)
If that makes sense.
Don't want 2 tonnes of car but like the idea of a Landcruiser which will not be as good on DC as the Disco BTW.
Doesn't want to look Mumsy at the school gates but has one of the most Mumsy cars eva (D4).
XC60 would be my suggestion but new shape is £35k+
If that makes sense.
Don't want 2 tonnes of car but like the idea of a Landcruiser which will not be as good on DC as the Disco BTW.
Doesn't want to look Mumsy at the school gates but has one of the most Mumsy cars eva (D4).
XC60 would be my suggestion but new shape is £35k+
Deendog said:
Volvo lovely lovely looking thing
In answer to willy nilly the main drive (which postman etc uses) is fine, normal flat gravel drive. There are other drives around the place that are heavily rutted and very steep in places. We also occasionally do drive off the tracks and into fields (rarely admittedly)
You can pick your way up and down the tracks in a low clearance car but takes a while and can get stuck if it’s muddy or icy.
There will come a time when the Discovery won't go up there though. I obviously use farm tracks all of the time, what with working on a farm and everything, really, if you can't go along them in a car they are too rough. In answer to willy nilly the main drive (which postman etc uses) is fine, normal flat gravel drive. There are other drives around the place that are heavily rutted and very steep in places. We also occasionally do drive off the tracks and into fields (rarely admittedly)
You can pick your way up and down the tracks in a low clearance car but takes a while and can get stuck if it’s muddy or icy.
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