New speeding laws for 1mph over
New speeding laws for 1mph over
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saaby93

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32,038 posts

208 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Chief Constable of West Mercia (that has a good track record of collecting fines during roadworks on the M5), says penalise people for driving at 1mph over the limit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5332443/Po...

Trouble is there are also rules for setting speed limits, and local authorities by and large ignore them
Should there be penalties for that too?

Edmund King of the AA doesnt come out smelling of roses
EK said:
Of course speeding is dangerous,
MP has better handle on it
Tory MP Sir Greg Knight warned a zero tolerance approach would 'make criminals of good drivers'.


to3m

1,228 posts

200 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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The Daily Mail game works as follows: they print stupid st, and wait for retards to give them clicks.

Now, in this game, either you're the Daily Mail, or...

RBH58

969 posts

165 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Here in Victoria Australia we have a 3kph (2mph) tolerance and it sucks. I have been fined (about GBP100 and 1 demerit point per time) on a number of occasions for being less that 5kph (3mph) over. People start driving around spending more time looking at their speedometer than where they are going.....and that’s supposed to be safer??!!

It’s revenue raising pure and simple. It has NOTHING to do with safety.

Edited by RBH58 on Wednesday 31st January 03:32

Short Grain

3,435 posts

250 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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So who's speedo is calibrated? Which make of car has a speedo that the manufacturer guarantees to be totally accurate. Could you then sue the manufacturer for selling faulty goods? They'd love that. Potential class actions against all car makers!

This idiot is just a headline grabber, wants his picture in the paper. So they 'catch' thousands of drivers going 1mph over the limit and ticket them. All those drivers elect to go to court, system is swamped, cases thrown out and costs awarded. Total breakdown in a short time, all down to this idiot!

Yes, I know this is taking it to the extreme but he started it! Deserves to be back on the beat the Tw*t!!


Bibbs

3,754 posts

240 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Short Grain said:
So who's speedo is calibrated?
They all are. Can read 10% more than actual speed, but not allowed to read under.

So at 100mph indicated your speed will be 90-100mph.

So if you are travelling over the speed limit, you know.

mojitomax

1,876 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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RBH58 said:
Here in Victoria Australia we have a 3kph (2mph) tolerance and it sucks. I have been fined (about GBP100 and 1 demerit point per time) on a number of occasions for being less that 5kph (3mph) over. People start driving around spending more time looking at their speedometer than where they are going.....and that’s supposed to be safer??!!

It’s revenue raising pure and simple. It has NOTHING to do with safety.

Edited by RBH58 on Wednesday 31st January 03:32
Victorian speed limits suck. I’ve resorted to sticking it on cruise everywhere (even in the 60kmh areas) after racking up 5 fines for doing less than 5kmh over the limit

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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They seem determined to suck the life out of life.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

107 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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And how will this work with an older car that was not provided with the latest super accurate speedo ?

The level of accuracy demanded by the law will hopefully stop this madness.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Good old clickbait.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Well click bait or not it was discussed on R4 Today programme around 6am today so it’s more than just click bait.

Mound Dawg

1,927 posts

204 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Well click bait or not it was discussed on R4 Today programme around 6am today so it’s more than just click bait.
Although in this era of 24 hour rolling news programmes the media need to discuss every minor story to keep their roundabout turning.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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They did it again just before 7am too.


Imagine getting stung for 21mph.... 3points and a salary linked fine.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Bibbs said:
Short Grain said:
So who's speedo is calibrated?
They all are. Can read 10% more than actual speed, but not allowed to read under.

So at 100mph indicated your speed will be 90-100mph.
What will it be reading at 70mph? 75 - 77 - 80? How is that of any use if there's zero tolerance?

Only a speedo with 100% accuracy is of any use and you've admitted they can read 10% or any figure up to 10% more.

That's not calibrated for accuracy.

Mound Dawg

1,927 posts

204 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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And they'll do it again at 8 and 9 and, oh wait, there's been a house fire in Chester. Ditch the speeding story, that's three hours old now.

Type R Tom

4,321 posts

179 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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I wouldn't have too much of an issue with it if they raised some speed limits and then enforced them to that level, most drives see them as a minimum not maximum

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Riley Blue said:
What will it be reading at 70mph? 75 - 77 - 80? How is that of any use if there's zero tolerance?

Only a speedo with 100% accuracy is of any use and you've admitted they can read 10% or any figure up to 10% more.

That's not calibrated for accuracy.
No silly.

No speedo reads ABOVE the limit they all under read.

So to likely get nipped in a 70mph for most Cars you might have to hit maybe 85-90mph on the speedo.


Anyway If you only ever drive with the speedo showing he limit you will never be nipped for speeding period.

JackReacher

2,284 posts

245 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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I don't necessarily have a problem with greater enforcement of speed limits, if those speed limits are appropriate, and in most cases they are not. You can't fine someone for doing 71 on an empty motorway in good visabilty.

I get the impression most actually limits are artificially low on the basis they know most will exceed them slightly.

Secondly, they shouldnt be focussing on this until they have mobile phone use, drink/drunk driving under control, and they clearly haven't.

SAS Tom

3,754 posts

204 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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How have we got this far without anyone reading what was actually said?

He’s suggesting that they get rid of the +2 part of the 10% +2 guideline. You’ll still be able to do 66 in a 60 for example.

The Rookie

286 posts

227 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Welshbeef said:
No silly.

No speedo reads ABOVE the limit they all under read.

No silly they all OVER read, that is read higher than the actual speed.

hutchst

3,727 posts

126 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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I once heard a Chief Constable from some Outinthestickshire on R4 genuinely proposing the the law should be changed to require all courts to accept written evidence given by policemen as true and accurate without cross examination, his argument being that it would save loadsamoney if his officers didn't have to waste their time going to court to explain to the jury why the scum perp is guilty.

He couldn't see any weakness in his argument. My point? Being bright isn't one of the job requirements to be CC.