Where are all the NHS dentists
Where are all the NHS dentists
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crankedup

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25,764 posts

272 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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We moved into our house just over four years back, since then we have had to register with four dental practices. We get to receive our first inspections c/w teeth x-ray and then on second visit it’s been a different dental practioner. These dentists seem to move around all the time. After the second visit we get the letter that thier services are now closed to NHS patients.
We now find ourselves in the position of not having a dentist available to us, I hasten to add that our teeth are in good condition and we are simply an average patient.
Now about to write to our MP and ask what has happened to our NHS dental services. Feel sure we are not the only people to have this problem?
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk.

Derek Smith

49,724 posts

277 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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It's a major problems in some areas. It is a significant problem in most. We moved and had to drop our excellent NH dentist. We both had our routine 6-monthly check-up and it took a visit to literally every dentist in our new town before we got anyone to take us. Even then we had to submit our teeth for examination at £75 each (that's each person, not each tooth) to see if they were suitable for the practice, whatever that means. Ours were in good nick and we both had lots of them, so we were taken on.

We have yearly checkups and we've both had just two treatments each in 5 years. We are told that come brexit we'll be looking for a new dentist or we could go private. Whether that's just an excuse or not I have no idea. I can't see dentists being excluded even by Mogg.

We went private for about 15-20 years and had treatment almost every year. I have the feeling that if we fail to find another NH dentist and revert to private, the number of treatments that will be 'essential' will increase.

I found all the NH dentists I've had since I've been married to be excellent. They have all seemed to take pride in their work - the current one took great pains to point out that I was using dental floss incorrectly, or at least not as effectively as I could. When I said that there were a couple of gaps that shredded floss due to fillings, he sanded them down, apparently without charge. All have been very gentle. I've fallen asleep on the chair once time.

The dental system in this country is appalling. It seems that the government doesn't care. One of my kids wrote to his MP with regards the complete unavailability of dentists for him, his wife and his kids. He was told that there were plenty in the area, he should just look. He organised a small group of parents and went to see him at what was called, with unabashed irony, a surgery. The group was dismissed with no answer to their problem.

It seems remarkable to me that UK/English children's teeth compare well with those of other countries. I know fluoride is a significant factor, but even so, not everyone gets it. Indeed Germany, in the top 5, doesn't do it according to a TV programme.


Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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We found our local NHS dentist by word of mouth (appropriately...) - a recommendation from a friend. We've been with them for less than a year and pay £20.60 a visit for an examination, scale & polish (the NHS Band 1 charge). There was no 'first visit' charge other than that.

BTW - Google shows Sycamore and My Dentist taking NHS patients in Bury St Edmunds.

meehaja

607 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Nhs website will list all nhs dentists in your area that are taking on new patients

essayer

10,410 posts

223 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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I registered with our local dentist but they prodded around and suggested lots of things needed doing, which was odd because I didn’t have issues and had had regular checkups before.
Went private for a second opinion and, mysteriously, none of the work was recommended.

the system is just too broken

RicksAlfas

14,517 posts

273 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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I found mine when I parked outside the practice and there was a sign in the window saying "We are accepting new NHS patients"!
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Rollin

6,331 posts

274 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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£75 for the dentist to deem whether you are suitable for his NHS services? If that's true, then the GDC should pay them a visit.
Highly irregular, definitely unethical and a HUGE breach of contract.

Patch1875

5,057 posts

161 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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never had a problem getting a NHS dentist.
Moved into centre of Edinburgh a year or so a go and got into the closest one 200yard from
the house no problem.

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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I used one, once. He insisted I needed a root canal doing on a tooth that I knew had already been done. He threw the anaesthetic needle in like a javelin thrower, I yelped in pain!

Then he charged me £150 for putting a crown on it. No apology for fking it up, just “oh, yes, you were right”.

Then he dropped something on my head, some tool or device....

The receptionists were laughing, when we told her, as all the staff knew the guy was a fking idiot. After that we went private.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Riley Blue said:
We found our local NHS dentist by word of mouth (appropriately...) - a recommendation from a friend. We've been with them for less than a year and pay £20.60 a visit for an examination, scale & polish (the NHS Band 1 charge). There was no 'first visit' charge other than that.

BTW - Google shows Sycamore and My Dentist taking NHS patients in Bury St Edmunds.
Thanks, ironically it was ‘My Dentist’ that we were with and discontinued NHS practice. I will have a look at Sycamore today.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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meehaja said:
Nhs website will list all nhs dentists in your area that are taking on new patients
Didn’t realise that I will have a look, thank you.

Ironically one of my brothers stepsons is a dentist, practices privately. Bit to far to travel though to Newcastle for a check-up.

Edited by crankedup on Friday 2nd February 10:50

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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I pay £30 a month for denplan, covers most things and I have had about £2500 of private treatment covered last few years , dentists did top notch work and no rush at all

£30 is About the same as people pay for a smartphone contract or a night out down the pub


crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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TwistingMyMelon said:
I pay £30 a month for denplan, covers most things and I have had about £2500 of private treatment covered last few years , dentists did top notch work and no rush at all

£30 is About the same as people pay for a smartphone contract or a night out down the pub
That seems good value but it adds up to £60 for wife and myself of course. But I will very reluctantly look up some dental plans. (would having just two teeth make it cheaper hehe )

The_Doc

6,255 posts

249 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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King Herald said:
I used one, once. He insisted I needed a root canal doing on a tooth that I knew had already been done. He threw the anaesthetic needle in like a javelin thrower, I yelped in pain!

Then he charged me £150 for putting a crown on it. No apology for fking it up, just “oh, yes, you were right”.

Then he dropped something on my head, some tool or device....

The receptionists were laughing, when we told her, as all the staff knew the guy was a fking idiot. After that we went private.
Why didn't you complain to the practice manager or the General Dental Council?

You might be better off now, but his current patients aren't



Jakg

4,037 posts

197 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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crankedup said:
We moved into our house just over four years back, since then we have had to register with four dental practices. We get to receive our first inspections c/w teeth x-ray and then on second visit it’s been a different dental practioner. These dentists seem to move around all the time. After the second visit we get the letter that thier services are now closed to NHS patients.
We now find ourselves in the position of not having a dentist available to us, I hasten to add that our teeth are in good condition and we are simply an average patient.
Now about to write to our MP and ask what has happened to our NHS dental services. Feel sure we are not the only people to have this problem?
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk.
My colleague got a next-day appointment for a checkup at an NHS practice he'd never used before in Woodbridge (Suffolk). I thought that was pretty good!

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Confession time : haven't been to a dentist in over 10 years.

No issues that I'm aware of so far... brush twice a day for 2 mins or so smile

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

272 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Jakg said:
crankedup said:
We moved into our house just over four years back, since then we have had to register with four dental practices. We get to receive our first inspections c/w teeth x-ray and then on second visit it’s been a different dental practioner. These dentists seem to move around all the time. After the second visit we get the letter that thier services are now closed to NHS patients.
We now find ourselves in the position of not having a dentist available to us, I hasten to add that our teeth are in good condition and we are simply an average patient.
Now about to write to our MP and ask what has happened to our NHS dental services. Feel sure we are not the only people to have this problem?
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk.
My colleague got a next-day appointment for a checkup at an NHS practice he'd never used before in Woodbridge (Suffolk). I thought that was pretty good!
Good to hear that some areas are still offering an NHS dental service. In the past we have always had the benefit of NHS but this looks set to cease now. Looking into private practice, not because I prefer it but it seems that is all that is now available in our area.
Written to our local MP, be interesting if the situation can be explained away by her.

kurt535

3,560 posts

146 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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You have to sign a contract when you join the services; are NQ dentists/doctors free agents from the moment they leave Uni?

cml24

1,583 posts

176 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Ive found that bigger places had more NHS options.

In shetland the waiting list was seven years for a checkup!

In London, I rang a new practice and got an appointment the same day.

Sheepshanks

40,965 posts

148 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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crankedup said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
I pay £30 a month for denplan, covers most things and I have had about £2500 of private treatment covered last few years , dentists did top notch work and no rush at all

£30 is About the same as people pay for a smartphone contract or a night out down the pub
That seems good value but it adds up to £60 for wife and myself of course. But I will very reluctantly look up some dental plans. (would having just two teeth make it cheaper hehe )
My teeth are pretty ropey (drill & fill from the 60's/70's) and I pay £25/mth for Denplan. Wife pays £20. The dentist sets the amount though - it's more like a service plan than anything else. I get four hygienist appointments per year in that (wife gets 2).

I hate the idea of paying but when our dentist went private not long after our previous one retired we seemed a bit stuck. I can't fault the service though - an old crown fell off on the Saturday afternoon before Christmas just gone (Christmas day was Monday). Rang the emergency number and the dentist called back and asked me to go in Sunday morning and have it stuck back on. Saved Christmas for me.

I hate paying though - I don't understand why even NHS patients pay. But then I feel the same about glasses too.