Bike security

[SidG]

Boring question I know. Looking at options for my new first bike. Will be stored in an alarmed integral garage but more concerned when I’m out on it and need to park up. Mainly be using it for fun at weekends and rare occasional commute. Thinking of an Almax heavy chain and Abus disclock stored in a 10l Kreiga bag on pillion seat. After spending £5.5k, £250 odd quid on security seems to make sense. As a newb all opinions appreciated and any cost savings.

[cmaguire]

Just get a disclock that'll fit under the seat.
You'll be sick of carrying that chain and lock around pretty quick
Plus, with the weight of it, you might just as well have bought an ER6

[Gavia]

Whilst the Almax chains are fantastic security, they really aren’t mobile. They weigh an absolute ton and having one of those sliding around the back of your bike will not be fun. It’ll probably overpower whatever you’ve fixed the Kriega back pack with too and suddenly fall off the side and pull the bike with it.

[SidG]

Thanks. Disclock recommendations?

[cmaguire]

Abus, Kryptonite etc

They usually have a security rating on the packaging.
At around the £80 mark it moves to a rating that'd be OK in my opinion. Buy something in the 80-120 region.

[Gavia]

I don’t put any security measures on my bike when I’m out riding, but I only ride for fun, so never leave the bike for long when parked up. Plus our chosen roads are fairly rural and there tends not to be too many scrotes about as a result.

I’m probably not the best person to ask.

[anonymous-user]

After having a 6 week old R1 stolen by having it lifted into a van I take a security chain everywhere.

The weight is nothing really and it means I can fasten to an inanimate object.

Disc locks only stop opportunists not professionals

[cmaguire]

Don't get too excited about the ones that have alarms on them either. They often go off randomly and they're physically larger usually and relatively more pricey.

[cmaguire]

keirik said:

After having a 6 week old R1 stolen by having it lifted into a van I take a security chain everywhere.

The weight is nothing really and it means I can fasten to an inanimate object.

Disc locks only stop opportunists not professionals

The professionals are just like peadophiles.
There really isn't one on every street corner however much the stupid parents believe there is.

[anonymous-user]

cmaguire said:

keirik said:

After having a 6 week old R1 stolen by having it lifted into a van I take a security chain everywhere.

The weight is nothing really and it means I can fasten to an inanimate object.

Disc locks only stop opportunists not professionals

The professionals are just like peadophiles.
There really isn't one on every street corner however much the stupid parents believe there is.

So you're saying my bike wasn't stolen then?

And in London they generally are on every street.

So tell me what the point of your post was other than just to be a smart arse

[cmaguire]

keirik said:

So you're saying my bike wasn't stolen then?

And in London they generally are on every street.

So tell me what the point of your post was other than just to be a smart arse

Bit touchy aren't you?

My point is your anecdotal evidence (which I don't dispute) isn't a fair representation of the risks faced by anyone else.
If I carried a chain and lock around everytime I went out where I live then it would amount to nothing more than hassle and worse handling and fuel economy.

The OP isn't commuting in London. And may not ever go there if he's lucky.

[BobSaunders]

I have insurance. It's a replaceable object.

Steering lock and disc lock - as per insurance requirements only.

[SidG]

Appreciate that but as a new rider with zero NCB would rather decrease the chances of having to make a claim. I realise if professional thieves really want it, they’ll take it somehow.

[SidG]

But as you say will defo go with a good disclock. Recommendations and tips from experienced folk on here would help. Cheers.

[Moulder]

What bike is it?

[SidG]

MT07

[Scobblelotcher]

I’ve got a 09 GSXR-600 and have protected NCB so I don’t worry about it too much but I do always consider where it’s parked.

I made a decision sometime ago to stop worrying about things like this, I consider where it’s left and if it gets taken then that is what insurance is for. When it’s at home it’s kept out of sight and is chained to an anchor.

[cmaguire]

I like the look of this one



http://www.getgeared.co.uk/abus-locks_granit_sledg...

[TwoStrokeNut]

Also get a decent U lock, something like one of the 16mm shackle Oxford ones which are about fifty quid and motorcycle sold secure Gold, FWIW... They are hand to have if you want to lock anything else with your bike, say on a trip.

Also if it's practical, leave a chain where you park.

You just want them to move on to another target really.

[CAPP0]

All the people saying "I've got insurance and protected NCB" etc, have you also got protected excess payments? Protected no-increase-in-premium next year? Protected "I don't give a toss whether my bike is there when I get back or not"? Protected "need to take the train until I get paid out and get another bike in 6-8 weeks' time"?

Thought not.

Presumably you all have protected "I've never had a bike nicked and I don't know anyone who has" too.

Complacency is what makes the robbing twunts carry on doing it.