M6 Grand Coupe prices?
Discussion
There are about 25 cars for sale on BMW's website ranging from c£48k to £75k, including quite a lot of 17 plates.
I think they are very good looking cars and having test driven one a few weeks ago I was very impressed.
I am aware of the horrific depreciation on these cars and therefore trying hard to negotiate a very low price. I know it does not help that I have a 7 month old M3CP to p/x (with negative equity), but still.
Shall I wait a further 6 months or so as the prices of these cars will surely come down (so will my car, but hopefully not as fast) or keep an eye on the cars and keep badgering away at them until a dealer wants to cut their losses.
I believe there are still some unregistered cars lurking around, what will happen to them?
I think they are very good looking cars and having test driven one a few weeks ago I was very impressed.
I am aware of the horrific depreciation on these cars and therefore trying hard to negotiate a very low price. I know it does not help that I have a 7 month old M3CP to p/x (with negative equity), but still.
Shall I wait a further 6 months or so as the prices of these cars will surely come down (so will my car, but hopefully not as fast) or keep an eye on the cars and keep badgering away at them until a dealer wants to cut their losses.
I believe there are still some unregistered cars lurking around, what will happen to them?
They seem to be VERY slow seller's
I monitor them daily (!) And have done so for months and they just don't shift
Occasionally a very highly specced car will come up privately and occasionally specd but the vast majority on autotrader have been their for many many months
It puts me off getting one in all honesty as the M5s seem to sell far more quickly and appear much more sought after even though in my eyes the M6GC is far superior
I own a 640dGC and an M3 so I guess we have similar thinking !!
Certainly a car where I'd be confident to make low ball offers on and then just see if a dealer bites
I monitor them daily (!) And have done so for months and they just don't shift
Occasionally a very highly specced car will come up privately and occasionally specd but the vast majority on autotrader have been their for many many months
It puts me off getting one in all honesty as the M5s seem to sell far more quickly and appear much more sought after even though in my eyes the M6GC is far superior
I own a 640dGC and an M3 so I guess we have similar thinking !!
Certainly a car where I'd be confident to make low ball offers on and then just see if a dealer bites
Agreed regarding them being slow sellers.
What concerns me is that I saw one for £74,950. WBAC price was £52k. I know it's trade, but is that the sort of markup on these cars?
To me that means if something serious happened and I had to sell quickly, £52k is around the figure I would get. I am sure BMW would not want to buy it back from me anyway.That is some serious depreciation. I am not normally too concerned with depreciation, but this is a lot. Maybe too much.
Not a depreciation thread.
What concerns me is that I saw one for £74,950. WBAC price was £52k. I know it's trade, but is that the sort of markup on these cars?
To me that means if something serious happened and I had to sell quickly, £52k is around the figure I would get. I am sure BMW would not want to buy it back from me anyway.That is some serious depreciation. I am not normally too concerned with depreciation, but this is a lot. Maybe too much.
Not a depreciation thread.
I only bought mine because I knew I was going to keep it a long time, I've currently had it more than 4 years and will keep it a while longer yet unless it starts to get unreliable.
Bear in mind that they have stopped producing these now and there is no direct replacement. That might make prices drop or rise, who knows!!
Bear in mind that they have stopped producing these now and there is no direct replacement. That might make prices drop or rise, who knows!!
I've had my 640dGc for 2.5 years now....and simply can't think of anything to replace it with (other than an m6GC)
The 6GC is a superb car and having had many m3s and m5s I think the m6gc will be a brilliant longterm ownership prospect
If I was buying I'd be looking for a VERY high spec cars with nice options like b&o, full leather , ceramics etc to maximise the ownership experience and sellability
I'm in the same boat. ..other than the 6GC I change cars wayyyy too regularly
The 6GC is a superb car and having had many m3s and m5s I think the m6gc will be a brilliant longterm ownership prospect
If I was buying I'd be looking for a VERY high spec cars with nice options like b&o, full leather , ceramics etc to maximise the ownership experience and sellability
I'm in the same boat. ..other than the 6GC I change cars wayyyy too regularly
Surround view is very useful as it’s a difficult car to judge exactly where the corners are.
B&O is good but not massively better than the standard audio, the central speaker is cool though.
Ceramic brakes are good as they stop the car again and again, but can squeak a bit when cold and wet.
Full leather and M Multifunctional seats became standard in 2015 I think, selective beam headlights were fitted slightly later.
The M6 GC wheels are heavy and cast, the forged optional non cost wheels similar to the M5 are lighter and stronger.
B&O is good but not massively better than the standard audio, the central speaker is cool though.
Ceramic brakes are good as they stop the car again and again, but can squeak a bit when cold and wet.
Full leather and M Multifunctional seats became standard in 2015 I think, selective beam headlights were fitted slightly later.
The M6 GC wheels are heavy and cast, the forged optional non cost wheels similar to the M5 are lighter and stronger.
Having had F10 M5 previously and now a M6 GCP for last 3 yrs and 58000 miles here’s my view on the options and points you mention.
No rear entertainment as factory fitted option like M5/X5/7 series etc.. Early cars with the standard seats are a complete no no for any head rest fitted rear entertainment aftermarket option as the 2 bars of the head rest do not extend out to fit anything to. The M multifunction seats with the head rest lifted up expose the two metal bars to connect 3rd party equipment to, even the BMW tablet holder bracket I believe. I researched this for ages with my local dealer some time ago.
Had the B & O previously, not in my M6, listening to radio or Bluetooth music from my phone at normal volume I can’t really notice a difference, the HK system seems fine. Perhaps if you like SACD or real high end source music it makes a difference but given the cost difference it’s absence wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me if I was taking the option price hit on a new car. I suppose it’s presence does mark the car out as a high specced car when you come to resell. I’m no audiophile expert so perhaps others can advise better than me.
Love my black alloy wheels (exterior is black as well) but it’s a big car and easy to scuff alloys if you use as everyday drive such as in narrow multi-storey car park barriers or fast food drive through. When the wheels get scuffed it exposes the base shiny metal against the black painted finish: looks really unsightly. Point is I really miss not having surround view, the rear camera alone is not enough! Forged alloy refurb price isn’t too bad but I would steer clear of diamond cut alloy finish wheels, much more expensive to refurb I guess and as by the end of each summers use all 4 of my summer alloy wheels are marked
Comfort access and soft close doors: really miss these, you don’t “need” them, but they are nice.
Speed limit display: can’t imagine not having this in head up display.
As for the finances unless you’ve won the lottery or have money to throw away don’t even think about this car if youre not in it for the long haul. I took my car out on the 0% finance (4 year plan) 3 yrs ago and a v small deposit. The amount still owed today still hasn’t caught up with the WBAC price now or the dealer part exchange price when I was discussing a new M5 order recently (I passed on that). Point is after 3 years of use and depreciation in what is, granted, a high mileage car I’m still in negative equity on the car. If you go into this with eyes open just use and enjoy it as much as you can. It’s an awesome car, I never get out of it feeling worse that when I got in at the start of a journey, it just makes you feels special. I love the M5 but the interior is a step up in every regard IMHO. I’ve got other exotica in the garage but I still take the M6 keys more often than not. In fact when my deal ends I’m really thinking of buying outright in the final balloon payment and refreshing the ownership experience with a different colour wrap, better exhaust etc.. must be my middle age crisis but I’m thinking frozen green metallic!
No rear entertainment as factory fitted option like M5/X5/7 series etc.. Early cars with the standard seats are a complete no no for any head rest fitted rear entertainment aftermarket option as the 2 bars of the head rest do not extend out to fit anything to. The M multifunction seats with the head rest lifted up expose the two metal bars to connect 3rd party equipment to, even the BMW tablet holder bracket I believe. I researched this for ages with my local dealer some time ago.
Had the B & O previously, not in my M6, listening to radio or Bluetooth music from my phone at normal volume I can’t really notice a difference, the HK system seems fine. Perhaps if you like SACD or real high end source music it makes a difference but given the cost difference it’s absence wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me if I was taking the option price hit on a new car. I suppose it’s presence does mark the car out as a high specced car when you come to resell. I’m no audiophile expert so perhaps others can advise better than me.
Love my black alloy wheels (exterior is black as well) but it’s a big car and easy to scuff alloys if you use as everyday drive such as in narrow multi-storey car park barriers or fast food drive through. When the wheels get scuffed it exposes the base shiny metal against the black painted finish: looks really unsightly. Point is I really miss not having surround view, the rear camera alone is not enough! Forged alloy refurb price isn’t too bad but I would steer clear of diamond cut alloy finish wheels, much more expensive to refurb I guess and as by the end of each summers use all 4 of my summer alloy wheels are marked
Comfort access and soft close doors: really miss these, you don’t “need” them, but they are nice.
Speed limit display: can’t imagine not having this in head up display.
As for the finances unless you’ve won the lottery or have money to throw away don’t even think about this car if youre not in it for the long haul. I took my car out on the 0% finance (4 year plan) 3 yrs ago and a v small deposit. The amount still owed today still hasn’t caught up with the WBAC price now or the dealer part exchange price when I was discussing a new M5 order recently (I passed on that). Point is after 3 years of use and depreciation in what is, granted, a high mileage car I’m still in negative equity on the car. If you go into this with eyes open just use and enjoy it as much as you can. It’s an awesome car, I never get out of it feeling worse that when I got in at the start of a journey, it just makes you feels special. I love the M5 but the interior is a step up in every regard IMHO. I’ve got other exotica in the garage but I still take the M6 keys more often than not. In fact when my deal ends I’m really thinking of buying outright in the final balloon payment and refreshing the ownership experience with a different colour wrap, better exhaust etc.. must be my middle age crisis but I’m thinking frozen green metallic!
Thanks for your input.
I discussed residuals with the dealer and he said it is possible that the car will be worth less than the agreed figure. That is why I am striving to get a good deal. I would have thought after two years or so you would be out of negative equity. I may keep my M3 then. Although the value is plummeting I hope to break even say after 2-2.5 years.
I suppose the alternatives (Audi RS7 and Mercedes CLS) are in the same position?
I discussed residuals with the dealer and he said it is possible that the car will be worth less than the agreed figure. That is why I am striving to get a good deal. I would have thought after two years or so you would be out of negative equity. I may keep my M3 then. Although the value is plummeting I hope to break even say after 2-2.5 years.
I suppose the alternatives (Audi RS7 and Mercedes CLS) are in the same position?
Selmer Mk6 said:
Thanks for your input.
I discussed residuals with the dealer and he said it is possible that the car will be worth less than the agreed figure. That is why I am striving to get a good deal. I would have thought after two years or so you would be out of negative equity. I may keep my M3 then. Although the value is plummeting I hope to break even say after 2-2.5 years.
I suppose the alternatives (Audi RS7 and Mercedes CLS) are in the same position?
CL65 - now that makes M6 GC depreciation seem trivial. I discussed residuals with the dealer and he said it is possible that the car will be worth less than the agreed figure. That is why I am striving to get a good deal. I would have thought after two years or so you would be out of negative equity. I may keep my M3 then. Although the value is plummeting I hope to break even say after 2-2.5 years.
I suppose the alternatives (Audi RS7 and Mercedes CLS) are in the same position?
M6GC undoubtedly a lovely car and the interior certainly is a step up on the M5. However it's just not possible in my opinion to justify the extra price in the used market over an M5 and after searching for a long time opted for the M5. I got an 8 mth old 3.5k mile car for 10k less than an 18 mth old 15k M6 GC and adding in the depreciation compared to an M5 it was just a no brainer, much as I like the M6GC.
If you remain set on having one, I would suggest that like the M5, CP appears to be most important and surround view very good. I wouldn't go near any ceramic brakes, vastly overrated unless you going to track the car, and dodgy in the wet on motorways as they lose so much heat.
If you remain set on having one, I would suggest that like the M5, CP appears to be most important and surround view very good. I wouldn't go near any ceramic brakes, vastly overrated unless you going to track the car, and dodgy in the wet on motorways as they lose so much heat.
jm doc said:
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I wouldn't go near any ceramic brakes, vastly overrated unless you going to track the car, and dodgy in the wet on motorways as they lose so much heat.
Have you had experience of the BMW Carbon Ceramic brakes?I wouldn't go near any ceramic brakes, vastly overrated unless you going to track the car, and dodgy in the wet on motorways as they lose so much heat.
Never had any problem with mine except a bit of squeak after washing or parked in heavy rain. I think they are great, very effective stopping power even from cold, will probably last the life of the car (current estimate based on actual wear and not the iDrive indicator is about 250,000 miles), and as an added bonus no brake dust.
RichardM5 said:
Have you had experience of the BMW Carbon Ceramic brakes?
Never had any problem with mine except a bit of squeak after washing or parked in heavy rain. I think they are great, very effective stopping power even from cold, will probably last the life of the car (current estimate based on actual wear and not the iDrive indicator is about 250,000 miles), and as an added bonus no brake dust.
Can they be retro fitted ie is it simply pass and the disc or is the whole system different?Never had any problem with mine except a bit of squeak after washing or parked in heavy rain. I think they are great, very effective stopping power even from cold, will probably last the life of the car (current estimate based on actual wear and not the iDrive indicator is about 250,000 miles), and as an added bonus no brake dust.
I’m assuming this was an ultra rare option and possibly only avaleable on the M5 CP or M6 CP not the standard versions
Rear blinds on a pillar-less door = surprising
Yes the wheels and badges are a bit much and the mileage but 4 door 650's seem a bit thin on the ground.
At this price its a no brainer.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263445751250
Yes the wheels and badges are a bit much and the mileage but 4 door 650's seem a bit thin on the ground.
At this price its a no brainer.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263445751250
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