2018 Speed Triple announced

[Loyly]

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-new-triumph-s...

Check that out if you're interested in the details.

Whilst it doesn't exactly look or sound like the new Speed Triple I have been waiting on, the TFT display and electronics package will probably appeal to the modern buyer and put it on a more equal footing with it's competitors.

I wonder how much longer Triumph can persist with this engine. Having met the new Euro standard, it'll no doubt live on for a while yet and whilst I am in agreement that it remains a great engine, the numbers are impressive in isolation but rather behind the fastest bikes in the class, and no amount of fettling that triple is going to give it the horsepower of the IL4's. However, it is plenty to have fun with.

I am still waiting for a big leap with the Speed Triple design, if not in power then at least in styling.

[RemaL]

Great bike and great engine but if you have been waiting for the new speed triple, snap so have I .

But i've been waiting since i sold my 2008 speed triple in 2011.

[Andybow]

I think it’s the perfect road bike engine, most manufacturers are going power mad, 99% of people will ride this bike on the roads and it’s well quick enough, add in peachy springers and awesome brakes, it looks like a amazing bike

[Birky_41]

I personally really like it

A mate sold his 14 with arrow exhausts end of last year for the new ducati monster 1200s

Tbh he's not gelled with it as much as first thought although the engine is a peach

Biggest gripe he had with his '135' brake one was it not being quick enough when out with us lot on mt10s superdukes, tuonos etc

I think this new one with a bit of weight loss and power gain will definitely get a few people interested. It's routes are old school but it's still doing well and no questioning it's handling ability. Through the twisties they are mint

[anonymous-user]

Looks great to me!

I’d consider one as a replacement to my CB1000R.. ok it’s not completely mental ala MT10 etc, but it does look good.

[rapide]

Judging the response to this bike from the above shows the importance of a headline grabbing bhp figure!

It’s 10bhp down on the MT10 but with a little more torque. You’d have to be a pretty decent rider to exploit the difference.

[braddersm3]

I'd be amazed if in a group of Mt10's, S1000R's, etc that a rider on even the 135 brake Speed would struggle to keep up or perhaps its a just a good excuse!..This looks like a step forward but not sure the marketing vid does it any favours....

[sjtscott]

braddersm3 said:

I'd be amazed if in a group of Mt10's, S1000R's, etc that a rider on even the 135 brake Speed would struggle to keep up or perhaps its a just a good excuse!..This looks like a step forward but not sure the marketing vid does it any favours....

I'd keep up believe me.. its not lacking on the public road, I only have the 2011 Speed too. On the track no its just not a race track engine.

Basically they messed around inside the engine of the new one to try and call it a new engine.. 105 new internal parts. Claimed 10hp up, Revs 1k more now to 10500, they must have changed the bore/stroke because it was at peak piston speed before (laws of physics at play here).
Its basically the 16/17 model with a TFT screen and some internal changes to the engine.. basically its the same bike.

I'm still waiting for that proper new engine Triumph!

[Ho Lee Kau]

I like the RS!
It has proper power for the roads, 150hp, how much more does one really need? And it has Torque!
Nice that they kept the underseat exhausts, yes they add 5kg to the weight, but they look cool and not like everyone else.
It's a bit hefty, but so what, it's a man's bike, imho, Rides great, feels great, sounds great.
Now they've added all the necessary electronics...and Triumph supplies heated grips from the factory, noone else but BMW does that.

I want to see the price, though. Last time I specced the Speed R (with Arrows and all) it was quite expensive.

Fantastic bike, for me it would be between Tuono and the new Speed Triple RS....and I think I would go for the Triumph.

[Ho Lee Kau]

Birky_41 said:

I personally really like it

A mate sold his 14 with arrow exhausts end of last year for the new ducati monster 1200s

Tbh he's not gelled with it as much as first thought although the engine is a peach

Biggest gripe he had with his '135' brake one was it not being quick enough when out with us lot on mt10s superdukes, tuonos etc

I think this new one with a bit of weight loss and power gain will definitely get a few people interested. It's routes are old school but it's still doing well and no questioning it's handling ability. Through the twisties they are mint

I think the 3kg weight loss is due mostly to the Arrow exhaust being standard on this bike.

[podman]

I really like that but I loved the look of the old model as well, be interesting to see how well it sells Vs the "top" of the naked opposition.

[sprinter1050]

I am a bit surprised that Triumph didn't follow their own precedent of what they did with the new Street Triple- upped it from 675 to 765.
Especially as, IIRC, they admitted some years back that the 1050 lump is actually an old design/architecture.

However it is good they have shed some weight & got 10 more horses out of it.
If I could afford to switch to a new bike I would definitely consider the RS.

[V12Manual]

+1

Though I hardly get time to ride the Thruxton and the Thruxton R I already have but I really want the RS

[sprinter1050]

V12Manual said:

+1

Though I hardly get time to ride the Thruxton and the Thruxton R I already have but I really want the RS

That's just greedy

[Loyly]

sprinter1050 said:

I am a bit surprised that Triumph didn't follow their own precedent of what they did with the new Street Triple- upped it from 675 to 765.
Especially as, IIRC, they admitted some years back that the 1050 lump is actually an old design/architecture.

However it is good they have shed some weight & got 10 more horses out of it.
If I could afford to switch to a new bike I would definitely consider the RS.

I don't think the engine architecture will allow for any more cubic capacity. I think it's pretty much at the limit now, since it started IIRC as an 885cc engine many years ago and was bored and stroked over successive iterations. When Triumph wanted a bigger engine (and arguably a smoother engine too) they went to a 1200cc IL4.

That said, the 150bhp it makes now isn't to be sniffed at.

[ash reynolds]

I think I'd still be buying an S1000R at that kind of money.

[sjtscott]

anonymous said:

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To answer your questions in order, nope and yes! Despite what triumph might be saying with 105 new internal engine parts its still the same basic engine. I'd like to know what they've done to make it rev to 10,500 since the original 1050 (I have in 2011 form) only revs to 9500 and its at peak piston speed already.

[3DP]

sjtscott said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

To answer your questions in order, nope and yes! Despite what triumph might be saying with 105 new internal engine parts its still the same basic engine. I'd like to know what they've done to make it rev to 10,500 since the original 1050 (I have in 2011 form) only revs to 9500 and its at peak piston speed already.

Just an evolved original engine. My model's red line is 10500, but the actual measured red line is 9600rpm with rev limiter at 9800rpm. In fact, with the re-mapping app etc hooked into ECU, you can see all of this regardless of what the actual rev counter is telling you as it's all there in black and white in the map.

My guess is this will be a 'Yamaha R6' style red line increase - so not really 1000rpm and likely about 133bhp at rear wheel.

It looks great, but ride it up against an MT10 or 1290 Superduke or S1000R and it will still feel a generation behind and a lot less lively.

Not knocking it and point to point it'll be close enough in pace, but where the S1000R and MT10 are popping up in 4th gear off crests and have modern superbike chassis, and the 1290 is offering giant supermoto feeling, kill you fast laughs, the Triumph is in danger of becoming a pseudo retro/hipster bike.

It's marketed as a hooligan, but in reality it's the least edgy bike in the class, with the least hooligan characteristics. It can do the hooligan thing, but you have to work at and hammer it, like you did with 80s and 90s bikes as the reality is 125rwbhp and 210kg does not make it a natural animal.

Still love my 2013 model as in isolation it's a fantastic bike, but once again, won't be putting my hard earned towards a new one with just more refinements to the 20+ year old engine.

[Lanker22]

Not sure why you'd opt for a Speed over the s1000r's and mt10's of this world.

Sure nobody needs 160+ bhp - but it's bloody nice to have!

[Ho Lee Kau]

Lanker22 said:

Not sure why you'd opt for a Speed over the s1000r's and mt10's of this world.

Sure nobody needs 160+ bhp - but it's bloody nice to have!

I rode S1000R many times, normal streets and mountain passes. It's fast and it's loud, well built, but it has no character.
I have ridden Speed Triple R also a number of times, it's beautifully built, sounds nicer (triple!) and feels less sterile and more like a hooligan bike, it has class/style.

Would never choose S1000R over STR.
MT10 is just ugly.

For me it would be STR or Tuono (tried that one as well).

So, see, not everyone opts for a more powerful bike that also costs less.