A2 Bike Help !
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SN Muffin

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170 posts

110 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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Hi all,

First proper post on here so please be gentle wink . I am currently 18 and looking at choices for my next bike when I pass my A2 test in the summer (hopefully). I am currently riding a KTM Rc125 and have an Aprilia Rs125 that has just been rebuilt. I would ideally like a Sports bike although wont be opposed to a naked. I have looked at the Rc390 but I would quite like a change. The Ninja 300 is catching my eye and so is the Duke.

I also know that you can get higher CC Bikes and restrict them to 35kw, I would like to go down this route as I would like to get as close to a "big boy" bike as I can. I have seen that you can get a Monster 796 and restrict it, although I have been advised that they are not that great anyway and restricting it wouldn't be good for the internals. Anyone here have any suggestions? would I be better buying a 300 or as high as I can go. rather then restricting a higher power Bike? anyone got a bike that is eligible for a A2 and have recommendations.

Thanks Guys (sorry for any grammar mistakes if there are any) . smile

Lee540

1,586 posts

175 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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Can't you get a 600 sports restricted?

I passed my full test back 2003 when I was 17, I rode ZXR400 on the 33bhp licence rules at the time until I could ride my GSXR1100 at 19.

Does a full power ZXR400 work for A2? Might be able to pick up a tidy L9 and it would be a lot of fun!

TastyBurger

26 posts

147 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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The bike can be any cc but mustn't be restricted to less than half of its original power, so basically nothing with more than 94 hp which rules out most 600 sports.
I used an sv650 (69hp standard) with washers in the carbs and it still felt pretty quick. Its currently for sale incidentally.

Ilovejapcrap

3,311 posts

143 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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friend just got a ktmduke 390 brand new for a great price.

I'd buy one

SN Muffin

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170 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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TastyBurger said:
The bike can be any cc but mustn't be restricted to less than half of its original power, so basically nothing with more than 94 hp which rules out most 600 sports.
I used an sv650 (69hp standard) with washers in the carbs and it still felt pretty quick. Its currently for sale incidentally.
So an 1998-2000 R6 for example, has 94hp so that could be restricted. But a 2008 -2009 model with 127 Bhp cannot. would it be best to go down the restrictor route or are current 300's (dukes, R3's) good enough.

SN Muffin

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170 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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TastyBurger said:
The bike can be any cc but mustn't be restricted to less than half of its original power, so basically nothing with more than 94 hp which rules out most 600 sports.
I used an sv650 (69hp standard) with washers in the carbs and it still felt pretty quick. Its currently for sale incidentally.
I have heard that the SV is good and it has been mentioned before to me. the main thing I would get a bike on at this stage is Performance (as much as I can get), Noise and then looks wink maybe a little childish but never mind.

SN Muffin

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170 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Also another point, Say for the sake of this that I was going to get a 1999 R6 with 94Bhp and then restrict it. Would I then be able to put a akrapovic exhaust on it. That would increase the performance over the Limit.

Jazoli

9,701 posts

281 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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SN Muffin said:
Also another point, Say for the sake of this that I was going to get a 1999 R6 with 94Bhp and then restrict it. Would I then be able to put a akrapovic exhaust on it. That would increase the performance over the Limit.
No not really, you need to play by the rules, a SV650 like mentioned will be plenty fast enough, sound great and look pretty good too, an R6 with half its power will feel like st and be strangled by the restrictors, the SV will be much nicer to ride as its not being completely castrated.

Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Jazoli said:
SN Muffin said:
Also another point, Say for the sake of this that I was going to get a 1999 R6 with 94Bhp and then restrict it. Would I then be able to put a akrapovic exhaust on it. That would increase the performance over the Limit.
No not really, you need to play by the rules, a SV650 like mentioned will be plenty fast enough, sound great and look pretty good too, an R6 with half its power will feel like st and be strangled by the restrictors, the SV will be much nicer to ride as its not being completely castrated.
A 99 R6 will be a big old lump compared to a fairly modern SV650 and unlikely to handle anywhere near as well too.

black-k1

12,811 posts

260 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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You're probably better off going for a higher torque, lower power engine (such as the SV) to restrict as it's only the top end power that has to meet the legal limits, not the torque.

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Ilovejapcrap said:
friend just got a ktmduke 390 brand new for a great price.

I'd buy one
This tbh - there's quite a few 2017 models that are pre-reg with dealers going for £3499 at the moment, with 0% finance in a lot of cases.

SN Muffin

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170 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Jazoli said:
No not really, you need to play by the rules, a SV650 like mentioned will be plenty fast enough, sound great and look pretty good too, an R6 with half its power will feel like st and be strangled by the restrictors, the SV will be much nicer to ride as its not being completely castrated.
Yeah that's what I thought. Thank you.

SN Muffin

Original Poster:

170 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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The SV650 Sounds like the way to go at the moment. That or a Duke/Ninja 300. Do you guys think SV ?

SN Muffin

Original Poster:

170 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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black-k1 said:
You're probably better off going for a higher torque, lower power engine (such as the SV) to restrict as it's only the top end power that has to meet the legal limits, not the torque.
Higher torque would be better for me anyway, My dad has a R6 track bike I can use when I get my ACU so that will be all the high end screaming fun and it will leave the high torque overtakes for the road smile. Which again, 125's just have no power when going for overtakes, it takes me years to get passed anything that isnt a fking mobility scooter on my bike, hence why I want as a big a bike as I can.