Discussion
I bought a Shark S900 helmet a few weeks ago and found that it was prone to misting to say the least... so I thought i'd give the pinlock insert included a go.
The difference is absolutely night and day - absolutely no misting and I felt like a caveman trying to work out how this new-fangled technology works...
Definitely recommend fitting one if your helmet has the capabilities.
The difference is absolutely night and day - absolutely no misting and I felt like a caveman trying to work out how this new-fangled technology works...
Definitely recommend fitting one if your helmet has the capabilities.
They certainly are... or should be.
Personally both myself and my son have got HJC's and the pinlock doesn't work as they should with ours, mine is quite dangerous at times. Strangely they don't do warranty on the pinlock side of things. He even put in a new pinlock and it still steamed up, the helmet was only 2 weeks old.
It's something I'll be looking our for before I purchase next time.
Personally both myself and my son have got HJC's and the pinlock doesn't work as they should with ours, mine is quite dangerous at times. Strangely they don't do warranty on the pinlock side of things. He even put in a new pinlock and it still steamed up, the helmet was only 2 weeks old.
It's something I'll be looking our for before I purchase next time.
I wouldn't buy another lid if it didn't have Pinlock. Best things since sliced bread.
However:
* I believe they are for 'daytime use only' (at least on my Shark)
* After a year or so of almost daily use, the anti-fogging becomes less effective, so regular maintenance is essential: https://pinlock.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Pin... Another good guide: http://www.beginnerbiker.com/2017/01/pinlock-foggi...
However:
* I believe they are for 'daytime use only' (at least on my Shark)
* After a year or so of almost daily use, the anti-fogging becomes less effective, so regular maintenance is essential: https://pinlock.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Pin... Another good guide: http://www.beginnerbiker.com/2017/01/pinlock-foggi...
Had it in my Shoei Hornet, it worked very well but I found it to scratch very very easily, and once scratched it felt horrible with a blur on my eyeline.
I now run without it, but tend to not get the damp misty days of the UK. Always hot here, sometimes very wet, for whatever reason, I've found I don't really miss it here in the tropics.
I now run without it, but tend to not get the damp misty days of the UK. Always hot here, sometimes very wet, for whatever reason, I've found I don't really miss it here in the tropics.
For those of us who ride all weather pinlocks are vital. I started more than 20 years ago with their forefathers the fogcity insert - basically a perm stick on antifog insert cousin of the pinlock. Fogcity was the first to support fitting the Shoei double curvature visors.
The XR1000 shoei I had was the first to have a pinlock standard.
The XR1000 shoei I had was the first to have a pinlock standard.
Jakarta said:
Had it in my Shoei Hornet, it worked very well but I found it to scratch very very easily, and once scratched it felt horrible with a blur on my eyeline.
They do damage very easily. I'm on my fifth overall, three damaged through bugs whacking it, and two through my cack-handedness. That's about what, £120 in three years or so.The're very good though. For any sort of touring I think they're a must personally.
As has been previously said above I'm certain that pinlock is for daytime use also, it does work brilliantly if fitted correctly, it works like double glazing, BUT
1. IF the visor isn't already drilled and fitted with the pinlock posts I wouldn't fancy drilling a new visor myself as the fitting is critical in getting it to seal on the inside of the visor, ( on my shoei I had to flatten the visor on my legs to insert the pinlock behind the pins )
2. The insert is very susceptive to scratches ( after the first cleaning of mine it was noticeably scratched and I stopped using mine ) also I didn't like the narrowing of vision that the rubber seal and edge of the insert gave my field of vision.
I found personally that fitting pinlock outweighed convenience due to the faff it made being able to easily remove the visor and leave to soak in the sink for cleaning.
Rain x anti fog would probably be a better bet which is visor safe and £ 4 a bottle from Halfords
Plus cheap helmets can be prone to fogging due to poor vents
1. IF the visor isn't already drilled and fitted with the pinlock posts I wouldn't fancy drilling a new visor myself as the fitting is critical in getting it to seal on the inside of the visor, ( on my shoei I had to flatten the visor on my legs to insert the pinlock behind the pins )
2. The insert is very susceptive to scratches ( after the first cleaning of mine it was noticeably scratched and I stopped using mine ) also I didn't like the narrowing of vision that the rubber seal and edge of the insert gave my field of vision.
I found personally that fitting pinlock outweighed convenience due to the faff it made being able to easily remove the visor and leave to soak in the sink for cleaning.
Rain x anti fog would probably be a better bet which is visor safe and £ 4 a bottle from Halfords
Plus cheap helmets can be prone to fogging due to poor vents
Prof Prolapse said:
What lunatic would drill their visor? 
What could possibly go wrong!
Ha, mine was pre drilled but did come with a template for drilling with the pinlock. I guess people who have problems with them would be down to the reason that the insert isn't sealing around the edges on the INSIDE of the visorWhat could possibly go wrong!
Prof Prolapse said:
They do damage very easily. I'm on my fifth overall, three damaged through bugs whacking it, and two through my cack-handedness. That's about what, £120 in three years or so.
The're very good though. For any sort of touring I think they're a must personally.
The're very good though. For any sort of touring I think they're a must personally.
You do know that they are supposed to go on the inside ? Right ?
I did a bike rally in north Wales last weekend and the weather was atrocious, pouring down or snowing and very cold. This overwhelmed my pinlock somewhat and somehow water got behind it. Usually I'm very impressed with them though.
I've found that on certain helmets - my AGV Corsa and Corsa Rs for example, you need a pinlock even if the conditions are dry, they seem to mist up really easily. I don't know if that's a result of helmet design, visor design (they're really thick) or if it's just because the visors (black) aren't coated.
I've found that on certain helmets - my AGV Corsa and Corsa Rs for example, you need a pinlock even if the conditions are dry, they seem to mist up really easily. I don't know if that's a result of helmet design, visor design (they're really thick) or if it's just because the visors (black) aren't coated.
best thing i bought for my pinlock was
https://www.racevisors.co.uk/product/pinlock-three...
originally my visor came with the rounded plastic pins which are nigh on impossible to adjust, these make it much easier!
https://www.racevisors.co.uk/product/pinlock-three...
originally my visor came with the rounded plastic pins which are nigh on impossible to adjust, these make it much easier!
Prof Prolapse said:
This vent;
Fair enough, hopefully those vents aren't big enough for a wasp or bee to find their way in ? Maybe some mesh or gauze shoved in the holes to filter the bugs ? As for drilling into the visor, someone else surely has to drill them to fit the posts ? What I found disconcerting was ( as per instructions) flattening the brand new visor off my Shoei to fit the pinlock
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