Grave Yard Question?
Discussion
I have spent the last few days working in a church, and couldnt help notice a lot of tomb stones in very bad nick and falling over, or the big ass horizontal ones wedged up with bricks etc.
Then i notices a lot of these are from the 1850’s!!
Surely (dead) people from the 1800’s are well and truly forgotten about by now?
I asked the church chap, if they ever get rid of them, but he answered that a tomb stone is there forever.
But surely at some point in time the graveyards will need emptying of old graves?
And at what point would/should they be remove?
Yes i know, very odd question
Then i notices a lot of these are from the 1850’s!!
Surely (dead) people from the 1800’s are well and truly forgotten about by now?
I asked the church chap, if they ever get rid of them, but he answered that a tomb stone is there forever.
But surely at some point in time the graveyards will need emptying of old graves?
And at what point would/should they be remove?
Yes i know, very odd question
Contract Killer said:
I have spent the last few days working in a church, and couldnt help notice a lot of tomb stones in very bad nick and falling over, or the big ass horizontal ones wedged up with bricks etc.
Then i notices a lot of these are from the 1850’s!!
Surely (dead) people from the 1800’s are well and truly forgotten about by now?
I asked the church chap, if they ever get rid of them, but he answered that a tomb stone is there forever.
But surely at some point in time the graveyards will need emptying of old graves?
And at what point would/should they be remove?
Yes i know, very odd question
What if you're 90 and want to visit a relatives grave?Then i notices a lot of these are from the 1850’s!!
Surely (dead) people from the 1800’s are well and truly forgotten about by now?
I asked the church chap, if they ever get rid of them, but he answered that a tomb stone is there forever.
But surely at some point in time the graveyards will need emptying of old graves?
And at what point would/should they be remove?
Yes i know, very odd question
Do you fancy digging them up?
On a seperate note I drove past a graveyard on a very steep hill in Wales once with what looked like the graves facing downwards,do they bury the feet 6ft down and the head 12?? Or do the feet gradually start showing?
Funkycoldribena said:
On a seperate note I drove past a graveyard on a very steep hill in Wales once with what looked like the graves facing downwards,do they bury the feet 6ft down and the head 12?? Or do the feet gradually start showing?
Apparently they do 'work their way up' over time.....It's a natural process and takes many many years but depends a lot on local geology etc
I live near an old church and over the last year I have been researching the history of my house. The graveyard was the first port of call. The 19th century graves carry a wealth of historical information, and are very often significant monuments in their own right, often listed.
Four past residents of my house are buried there. One of the graves carries a very interesting account about the brother of the interred, a young naval officer who served on HMS Arab, which went down with all hands off the Irish coast in the 1820's - a celebrated shipwreck.
I think to those who have an interest in history, graveyards hold great fascination.
Four past residents of my house are buried there. One of the graves carries a very interesting account about the brother of the interred, a young naval officer who served on HMS Arab, which went down with all hands off the Irish coast in the 1820's - a celebrated shipwreck.
I think to those who have an interest in history, graveyards hold great fascination.
craigjm said:
Since the passing of the 2007 London local authorities act graves in London can be “reused” after 75 years.
I visited the Jewish cemetary in Lodz a few years ago and really liked the bits that had become unmaintained, trees were growing through everwhere and it was becoming wild again, it was a very peaceful atmosphere, more welcoming than the normal neat stiff rows. I liked it.
What a surprisingly cool thread!
Contract Killer said:
But surely at some point in time the graveyards will need emptying of old graves?
And at what point would/should they be remove?
Yes i know, very odd question
And at what point would/should they be remove?
Yes i know, very odd question
WinstonWolf said:
Most aptly named poster. Ever.
..and yes, outstanding setup there!craigjm said:
Since the passing of the 2007 London local authorities act graves in London can be “reused” after 75 years.
Lots of my family are in Kensal Green cemetery. They started this process a few years ago to make space for new graves. They attempted to contact families of the old graves to notify them but 200 graves were dug up and interred into one big hole with a simple plaque on it.
The price of graves means reusing graves is a good earner. My mum bought a “new for two” there in 1992 - it was £7k. The newest price for the same is £16k.
I’m from the era that read the horrible histories books about 20+ years ago and I’m still fascinated by the old methods of ensuring someone wasn’t buried alive.
It would have been a creepy place to walk with the bells above ground tied to the toe of a dead person 6 feet under.
And the thought of a grave being exhumed only to ind scratch marks on the coffin lid.
Nowadays I love a wander in a grave yard. Dicifering the writing on some of the oldest stones that have half been swallowed by the ground beneath.
Sometimes it gives such a warm feeling so see heartfelt messages and the names which once would have been normal but now seem twee and old fashioned or even coming back round into fashion now.
There is obviously a big problem with grave space in this country so who know what will happen in future. Maybe one day we won’t get the choice to be buried at all?
As a non religious person I like how more people are choosing natural burial.
It also has the benefit of not leaving somewhere that your loved ones feel responsible to visit to maintain regularly whilst not being cremated if that’s not your cup of tea
It would have been a creepy place to walk with the bells above ground tied to the toe of a dead person 6 feet under.
And the thought of a grave being exhumed only to ind scratch marks on the coffin lid.
Nowadays I love a wander in a grave yard. Dicifering the writing on some of the oldest stones that have half been swallowed by the ground beneath.
Sometimes it gives such a warm feeling so see heartfelt messages and the names which once would have been normal but now seem twee and old fashioned or even coming back round into fashion now.
There is obviously a big problem with grave space in this country so who know what will happen in future. Maybe one day we won’t get the choice to be buried at all?
As a non religious person I like how more people are choosing natural burial.
It also has the benefit of not leaving somewhere that your loved ones feel responsible to visit to maintain regularly whilst not being cremated if that’s not your cup of tea
mangos said:
I’m from the era that read the horrible histories books about 20+ years ago and I’m still fascinated by the old methods of ensuring someone wasn’t buried alive.
Maybe they’re not such a bad idea:https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-bur...
craigjm said:
Since the passing of the 2007 London local authorities act graves in London can be “reused” after 75 years.
Strangely I never knew this but found out about it earlier today through a totally random avenue of conversation. Makes sense I guess; that being said I've been to maybe a dozen or so funerals so far in my life and no-one has been put in the ground; they've always been cremated.SlimRick said:
mangos said:
I’m from the era that read the horrible histories books about 20+ years ago and I’m still fascinated by the old methods of ensuring someone wasn’t buried alive.
Maybe they’re not such a bad idea:https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-bur...
They could have really done with a bell attached to her toe
Contract Killer said:
Surely (dead) people from the 1800’s are well and truly forgotten about by now?
John Tyler, the 10th President of the US was born in 1790.The sly old fox married a much younger second wife and had a son, Lyon, born in 1853 (as per your very old tombstones).
Lyon was a chip off the old block, as he too had a much younger second wife, and had his youngest sons when he was in his Seventies.
Both of those sons are still alive today!
Obviously neither of the grandsons ever met their grandfather, but I suspect they might argue that at least some people born in the 1850s aren't completely forgotten!
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