DNA tests for all
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martinh

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35 posts

292 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Just imagine where this could lead. Scary.......Martin

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2002/leicester_2002/2252782.stm

Richard92c2

464 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Just imagine where this could lead. Scary.......Martin

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2002/leicester_2002/2252782.stm




WOW

Imagine walking along the road one day to find someone that looks exactly like you, some money hungry nutty proffesor sold your genetics to a cloning "bodyshop" and you are now a double .. Tripple oooh !!

brrrr Scary stuff!!!

Don

28,378 posts

304 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Its a terrible invasion of privacy.

BUT. Think of how many crimes would become so much easier to solve...doesn't DNA evidence merely proves you were at a location - not when and not what you did when you were there (to the best of my knowledge, scientists your cue to speak up!) - so it wouldn't mean automatic convictions.

scruff400

3,757 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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not when and not what you did when you were there


Some would take this to an illogiocal conclusion of looking for character defects based on genetic defects.

A bit like the victorians interpreted skull lumps...

Yes, your honour, The number of genome copies present in a purified AAV vector preparation is determined using a quantitative polymerase chain reaction (PCR) and the ABI Prism^R 7700 Sequence Detection System. A specific set of primers and probe is designed for each vector construct which allows the direct detection of PCR products. The probe consists of an oligonucleotide with a 5' reporter dye and a 3' quencher dye which, when intact, does not result in fluorescence due to the proximity of quencher to reporter. During PCR, the 5' - 3' exonuclease activity of the polymerase (AmpliTaq Gold) cleaves the probe which separates the quencher and reporter and results in an increase in fluorescence, which means the accused has a propensity to hit people on Tuesdays.

podie

46,646 posts

295 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Just imagine where this could lead. Scary.......



Dad...?



mondeoman

11,430 posts

286 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Can they take DNA for a car??

Sort of use it to prove that we were driving somewhere...

Not a nice thought... not nice at all

pdv6

16,442 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Just imagine where this could lead. Scary.......



Scarier implications still for the cost of life insurance!

"Dear sir, We see from the DNA sample attached to your application form that you're likely to have a heart attack by the time you're 35. Monthly premium £500. Yours faithfully, blah blah"

martinh

Original Poster:

35 posts

292 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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podie - is that you. Sorry we flushed you down the loo as a baby son but we couldn't live with that ginger hair any longer I'm afraid. The other bad news is that I have a very strict personal policy on retrospective pocket money so that TVR will have to wait a bit longer.........Dad

MikeyT

17,609 posts

291 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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couldn't live with that ginger hair



Oi!

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

282 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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The ultimate stitch up?

podie

46,646 posts

295 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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podie - is that you. Sorry we flushed you down the loo as a baby son but we couldn't live with that ginger hair any longer I'm afraid. The other bad news is that I have a very strict personal policy on retrospective pocket money so that TVR will have to wait a bit longer.........Dad



seems I'm not yours... not a ginger hair in sight! Shame about the retrospective pocket money... might have applied for adoption...

elanturbo

565 posts

282 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Yea, but this system may well be preferable to the one in place now!

Currently DNA is held by the POLICE, whether you're guilty or something or not. The system being suggested by the guy who discovered DNA fingerprinting, is one where the DNA data form the 'entire' population is held by an independant body. The police would have to get permission to get the data relating to an individual.

The trouble is that life insurers and other interested companies would do next to anything to get access to this info.

SBD

462 posts

291 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Martin? Dad? Is that you? Oh my God, I have ginger(ish) hair and I'm adopted so it must be you......

(BTW if you're younger than about 45 then there might be a fatal flaw in this theory!)

mondeoman

11,430 posts

286 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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...... is one where the DNA data form the 'entire' population is held by an independant body. The police would have to get permission to get the data relating to an individual.



Sponsored by the Government, paid for by taxpayers - hmmmmmmmmmmm, about as independant as The Sun I'd say. Stitch up city here we come.

elanturbo

565 posts

282 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Agreed Mondeoman,... but it's that or the police under current proposals.
Which would you prefer?
DNA fingerprint technology is not going to go away.

>> Edited by elanturbo on Friday 13th September 11:40