Any views on this Griffith for sale down here in Cornwall?
Discussion
Hi,
I was initially interested in this car but after reading the MOT History, I was somewhat put off.
The car was originally Blue, then shortly after (3 years ish) the owner had it repainted RED and trimmed @ Blackpool.
If you want I can forward you the e-mails/pictures that Dealer sent me.
Bill.
I was initially interested in this car but after reading the MOT History, I was somewhat put off.
The car was originally Blue, then shortly after (3 years ish) the owner had it repainted RED and trimmed @ Blackpool.
If you want I can forward you the e-mails/pictures that Dealer sent me.
Bill.
What is it about the MOT history that looks iffy?
The only odd point I can see in the (many!) pictures is that the chassis has been throughly cleaned on parts, leaving what looks like black waxoil on the outriggers and centre section. Yo can clearly see loads of mods that have been done and not detailed in the description, looks like a lot has been spent on this car to bring it up to scratch.
The questions I would have would be about the prep that has been done to sell, i.e. why part of the car are that clean, having no scratches on the front underside at all is nearly impossible to have, and why was the numberplate off the rear at all?
Note - it looks to have 16 inch wheels all round, has it had a big brake conversion also?
The only odd point I can see in the (many!) pictures is that the chassis has been throughly cleaned on parts, leaving what looks like black waxoil on the outriggers and centre section. Yo can clearly see loads of mods that have been done and not detailed in the description, looks like a lot has been spent on this car to bring it up to scratch.
The questions I would have would be about the prep that has been done to sell, i.e. why part of the car are that clean, having no scratches on the front underside at all is nearly impossible to have, and why was the numberplate off the rear at all?
Note - it looks to have 16 inch wheels all round, has it had a big brake conversion also?
I notice that the pictures taken with it on the ramp show that they have lifted it under the outriggers....
It is one owner but comes with all the old V5s?
Why would you paint the chassis and suspension like that? White at the ends and black in the middle?
No detailed shots of outriggers and that is what I would want to see, especially as the triangle plates look a bit flaky in one of the shots, or it may have just been dirt?
It is one owner but comes with all the old V5s?
Why would you paint the chassis and suspension like that? White at the ends and black in the middle?
No detailed shots of outriggers and that is what I would want to see, especially as the triangle plates look a bit flaky in one of the shots, or it may have just been dirt?
gavgavgav said:
What is it about the MOT history that looks iffy?
The only odd point I can see in the (many!) pictures is that the chassis has been throughly cleaned on parts, leaving what looks like black waxoil on the outriggers and centre section. Yo can clearly see loads of mods that have been done and not detailed in the description, looks like a lot has been spent on this car to bring it up to scratch.
The questions I would have would be about the prep that has been done to sell, i.e. why part of the car are that clean, having no scratches on the front underside at all is nearly impossible to have, and why was the numberplate off the rear at all?
Note - it looks to have 16 inch wheels all round, has it had a big brake conversion also?
I might be a bit picky, but the MOT History for this 1995 BLUE TVR Griffith 500 has as an ADVISORY notice on 09.11.2006 @ 16985 miles, stating that the Nearside Rear Suspension Arm been Repaired by Welding! The only odd point I can see in the (many!) pictures is that the chassis has been throughly cleaned on parts, leaving what looks like black waxoil on the outriggers and centre section. Yo can clearly see loads of mods that have been done and not detailed in the description, looks like a lot has been spent on this car to bring it up to scratch.
The questions I would have would be about the prep that has been done to sell, i.e. why part of the car are that clean, having no scratches on the front underside at all is nearly impossible to have, and why was the numberplate off the rear at all?
Note - it looks to have 16 inch wheels all round, has it had a big brake conversion also?
Its got missing service history. Its had 6 services in 23 years.
07/03/1995 Letters from TVR to customer about cars mechanical spec.
17/04/1997 TVR Invoice. £3814 invoice for re-trim pearl paint & leather interior, he changed it at TVR from Blue with Black leather to its current scheme.
21/01/1998 4689 miles TVR Brooklands. 6k service + retorque suspension
27/01/2001 10570 miles Peninsular TVR. 6k Service plus SS manifolds & exhaust parts, plugs, starter motor, Service and parts inc handbrake, buttons etc
04/10/2001 10740 miles Peninsular TVR Fit radiator, ECU chip & set up.
29/08/2002 Alan Jeffrey Engine Tuner. Running fault, new air mass & replacement ECU
16/09/2002 12829 miles Peninsular TVR 12k Service inc Plugs, service, engine & exhaust mounts.. Transmission oils & air filter.
23/07/2003 14447 miles Peninsular TVR Small service plus suspension parts, plug leads & pads. Wax oil chassis.
22/07/2004 15323 miles Peninsular TVR Full engine tune & set-up, replace drive belt, heat shield, suspension parts, brakes plus more.
13/07/2006 Peninsular TVR Replace leads & engine set up.
14/11/2006 16985 miles Peninsular TVR Pugs, distributor, suspension parts
07/11/2007 18377 miles Peninsular TVR Service, clutch slave cylinder, plugs, plus other minor jobs.
12/06/2008 19068 miles Dullard Automotive Plug extensions & exhaust parts.
09/03/2009 20053 miles Dullard Automotive Spark plugs & exhaust parts fitted
13/10/2009 21166 miles Peninsular TVR MOT & some minor jobs.
22/09/2010 22200 miles peninsular TVR Replace discs, thermostat.
05/05/2011 TVR Parts.com New exhaust clamps & manifold gasket
20/09/2011 23203 miles T.R.Rowe Garage. Strip, free & bleed brakes
02/10/2015 25111 miles RPB Motors. Service.
15/04/2016 RPB Motors. Smoke test for induction leak. removed exhaust manifolds and inlet assembly plus timing cover, Replace cam shaft, lifters, timing chain refitted with new gaskets and more.£2361 cost.
before sale - full recommissioning service by ourselves inc 12m mot.
07/03/1995 Letters from TVR to customer about cars mechanical spec.
17/04/1997 TVR Invoice. £3814 invoice for re-trim pearl paint & leather interior, he changed it at TVR from Blue with Black leather to its current scheme.
21/01/1998 4689 miles TVR Brooklands. 6k service + retorque suspension
27/01/2001 10570 miles Peninsular TVR. 6k Service plus SS manifolds & exhaust parts, plugs, starter motor, Service and parts inc handbrake, buttons etc
04/10/2001 10740 miles Peninsular TVR Fit radiator, ECU chip & set up.
29/08/2002 Alan Jeffrey Engine Tuner. Running fault, new air mass & replacement ECU
16/09/2002 12829 miles Peninsular TVR 12k Service inc Plugs, service, engine & exhaust mounts.. Transmission oils & air filter.
23/07/2003 14447 miles Peninsular TVR Small service plus suspension parts, plug leads & pads. Wax oil chassis.
22/07/2004 15323 miles Peninsular TVR Full engine tune & set-up, replace drive belt, heat shield, suspension parts, brakes plus more.
13/07/2006 Peninsular TVR Replace leads & engine set up.
14/11/2006 16985 miles Peninsular TVR Pugs, distributor, suspension parts
07/11/2007 18377 miles Peninsular TVR Service, clutch slave cylinder, plugs, plus other minor jobs.
12/06/2008 19068 miles Dullard Automotive Plug extensions & exhaust parts.
09/03/2009 20053 miles Dullard Automotive Spark plugs & exhaust parts fitted
13/10/2009 21166 miles Peninsular TVR MOT & some minor jobs.
22/09/2010 22200 miles peninsular TVR Replace discs, thermostat.
05/05/2011 TVR Parts.com New exhaust clamps & manifold gasket
20/09/2011 23203 miles T.R.Rowe Garage. Strip, free & bleed brakes
02/10/2015 25111 miles RPB Motors. Service.
15/04/2016 RPB Motors. Smoke test for induction leak. removed exhaust manifolds and inlet assembly plus timing cover, Replace cam shaft, lifters, timing chain refitted with new gaskets and more.£2361 cost.
before sale - full recommissioning service by ourselves inc 12m mot.
citizen smith said:
I might be a bit picky, but the MOT History for this 1995 BLUE TVR Griffith 500 has as an ADVISORY notice on 09.11.2006 @ 16985 miles, stating that the Nearside Rear Suspension Arm been Repaired by Welding!
That could possibly be the arb bracket cracking a regular thing happened to me put upgraded ones on simple job .Toma500 said:
That could possibly be the arb bracket cracking a regular thing happened to me put upgraded ones on simple job .
I had a Chimaera 500 in 2001 that was only 5 yrs old when the ARB bracket sheared through. Had to be welded back onto the lower wishbone. New camshaft at about 26k miles may have been for performance, not worn out?That does look to be a nice one, but be prepared for the lack of power steering. I don't have it, but it's a must-have for some buyers.
Edited by ianwayne on Thursday 1st March 14:21
The Selfish Gene said:
I was just curious as I used to own a beautiful Blue one , and I always wonder where it ended up.
I would never buy colour changed car............just not my thing.
There seems to be a bit of a prejudice against colour changed cars. I’m just curious as to why, especially if the colour change is to a factory original colour. I would never buy colour changed car............just not my thing.
I’m about to change the colour on my Tuscan. It has 17 year old paint that needs a full respray to bring up to scratch. The interior is pretty worn and tired too, so I decided to get a full interior re-trim and respray and colour coordinate the two. Don’t see the problem myself. Colour will be a factory original colour.
it's a personal thing - on a TVR it's less about devaluation (unlike say a classic Porsche or Ferrari)
re-spraying to the same colour also not too bad.
just for me - to a different colour, I just don't know why you would do that. Maybe subconsciously (and incorrectly) it feels like something is being hidden?
In this threads case, I didn't like the new colour and love the blue
re-spraying to the same colour also not too bad.
just for me - to a different colour, I just don't know why you would do that. Maybe subconsciously (and incorrectly) it feels like something is being hidden?
In this threads case, I didn't like the new colour and love the blue
Just had a good look at the pictures and for a 1995 car, even with mileage that low, that is not the "original" condition of the chassis.
Sometime in its life this car has had a full body lift and chassis refurb. The rear wishbones are the later type with the strengthened ARB plate and the black
sections are just where the car has been waxoyled. Instead of spraying it everywhere, they have just concentrated on the areas in relation to the floor pans,
and tube and outriggers, that run within them.
With all new wishbones etc, why would you waxoyl them?
Look at at all the nuts and bolts, there all still shiny and new.
From the pics it looks as though plenty of cash has been spent, and if the colour change doesn't bother you then it looks a very nice car.
For me if i was spending 25k on a griff i would expect it to look like this one does underneath, but originality would be a must, so therefore what colour it left
the factory, is the colour it should be.That is just my personal choice
Having said the above, there is not many TVR'S that have not been painted at some point, if its just a front end paint for stone chips and the like.
Edit to add i hate that double exhaust
Sometime in its life this car has had a full body lift and chassis refurb. The rear wishbones are the later type with the strengthened ARB plate and the black
sections are just where the car has been waxoyled. Instead of spraying it everywhere, they have just concentrated on the areas in relation to the floor pans,
and tube and outriggers, that run within them.
With all new wishbones etc, why would you waxoyl them?
Look at at all the nuts and bolts, there all still shiny and new.
From the pics it looks as though plenty of cash has been spent, and if the colour change doesn't bother you then it looks a very nice car.
For me if i was spending 25k on a griff i would expect it to look like this one does underneath, but originality would be a must, so therefore what colour it left
the factory, is the colour it should be.That is just my personal choice
Having said the above, there is not many TVR'S that have not been painted at some point, if its just a front end paint for stone chips and the like.
Edit to add i hate that double exhaust
Edited by TJC46 on Thursday 1st March 19:54
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