Disgraceful lack of ability from South Western Railway
Disgraceful lack of ability from South Western Railway
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rallycross

Original Poster:

13,737 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Just had this come through, South Western Railway is shutting every route today from 8pm.
This is a huge network and serves all the areas from Waterloo out to Surrey and further out to the west.

There is little or no snow between eg Woking and London, so how can they justify closing down hundreds of routes (fair enough on routes with some snow).

shocking cost saving/skiving mentality should receive massive fines for this..

  • URGENT*~02/03 Our train service will be closing at 20:00 today. We are urging you not to attempt to travel. If you have already travelled, please return as early as possible. For latest
information, please see
https://www.southwesternrailway.com/disruption

10:40 AM - Mar 2, 2018


Byker28i

90,872 posts

246 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Is this such a surprise? Everybody's been saying not to travel, even our BCP plan was initiated last night allowing everyone to work from home.

fido

18,827 posts

284 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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The Lounge or London .. ? laugh

Some of my Essex-based colleagues haven't had a train service for a few days, so I suppose SWT isn't the worse of the lot.

Bikesalot

1,885 posts

187 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Wasn't there something reported that if Network Rail - who maintain and operates the lines deem them unfit for use they have to pay the train operators compensation, so there's no fight in them to contest anything.

May have made all that up

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

161 months

chow pan toon

12,950 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Maybe they could get a strike out of the way at the same time, that'd help to minimise disruption.

mandos_01

646 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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To give SWT some credit, I'd been expecting chaos this week given the weather ahd their usual inclination to melt down without any real provocation.

Its actually been very good all week, a few mins delayed here and there but I'd argue that the service via Staines and Richmond has been far better than it usually is!

rallycross

Original Poster:

13,737 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
awesome, skip to 4m 40 seconds to see what a train can do in the snow.

valiant

14,104 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Decision would not have been taken lightly.

All would be done in consultation with Network Rail, Met Office and emergency services.

Wasn't it a SWT train stranded for 15 hours last night with no power and 200 passengers with more bad weather expected?

Hardly suspended because a few guys 'down the depot' fancy a skive.

Just get your asses home. Preferably from now.

Condi

20,267 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
You'd be less impressed if they ran a service tonight then had to spend 5 days digging a train out which got stuck....

CharlesdeGaulle

26,882 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Condi said:
4x4Tyke said:
You'd be less impressed if they ran a service tonight then had to spend 5 days digging a train out which got stuck....
True, but that's a brilliant film.

crashley

1,574 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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fido said:
The Lounge or London .. ? laugh

Some of my Essex-based colleagues haven't had a train service for a few days, so I suppose SWT isn't the worse of the lot.
Where in Essex? Sounds like a load of bull to me!

theplayingmantis

5,763 posts

111 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Bikesalot said:
Wasn't there something reported that if Network Rail - who maintain and operates the lines deem them unfit for use they have to pay the train operators compensation, so there's no fight in them to contest anything.

May have made all that up
network rail are the biggest issue with railway trouble.

a bigger bunch of s there never was.

going back to the old days of drunken irish navies would be an improvement on many of the 'characters' that NR employ in there 'maintenance' teams...but that's a story for the annoying (disgusting, scummy, antisocial, council, offensive) things people do on train thread from what ive seen over 10 years of commuting.

valiant

14,104 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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crashley said:
fido said:
The Lounge or London .. ? laugh

Some of my Essex-based colleagues haven't had a train service for a few days, so I suppose SWT isn't the worse of the lot.
Where in Essex? Sounds like a load of bull to me!
GA have been severely affected. Complete lottery if you want a train in the morning with points, signals and trains failing regularly. If you live on a branch line then it's even worse with most lines shut. Occasionally they get the odd train out but that's the exception.

They've also issued a 'do not travel' decree.

Has been immense fun (not) getting to work since Tuesday (although they dropped a bk on Tues when they cancelled loads of trains when the weather was fine. The 'Beast from the East' like normal GA trains arrived late in Essex).

theplayingmantis

5,763 posts

111 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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valiant said:
crashley said:
fido said:
The Lounge or London .. ? laugh

Some of my Essex-based colleagues haven't had a train service for a few days, so I suppose SWT isn't the worse of the lot.
Where in Essex? Sounds like a load of bull to me!
GA have been severely affected. Complete lottery if you want a train in the morning with points, signals and trains failing regularly. If you live on a branch line then it's even worse with most lines shut. Occasionally they get the odd train out but that's the exception.

They've also issued a 'do not travel' decree.

Has been immense fun (not) getting to work since Tuesday (although they dropped a bk on Tues when they cancelled loads of trains when the weather was fine. The 'Beast from the East' like normal GA trains arrived late in Essex).
branch lines are rubbish, but mainline has saturday/sunday service last few days no real issues if your prepared to wait 20 mins for the train.

tuesday was a joke though. no trains and no snow!

valiant

14,104 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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No real issues...

Hmmm..scratchchin


Leicester Loyal

5,032 posts

151 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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theplayingmantis said:
network rail are the biggest issue with railway trouble.

a bigger bunch of s there never was.

going back to the old days of drunken irish navies would be an improvement on many of the 'characters' that NR employ in there 'maintenance' teams...but that's a story for the annoying (disgusting, scummy, antisocial, council, offensive) things people do on train thread from what ive seen over 10 years of commuting.
How come?

paul789

4,244 posts

133 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Byker28i said:
Is this such a surprise? Everybody's been saying not to travel, even our BCP plan was initiated last night allowing everyone to work from home.
'BCP plan was initiated' - is this code for, 'Hey Trevor - where's that dusty lever arch file been moved to'?

theplayingmantis

5,763 posts

111 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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valiant said:
No real issues...

Hmmm..scratchchin

cant view that as my work server doesn't allow it. got in via GA from central Essex a mere 15 minutes late!

theplayingmantis

5,763 posts

111 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Leicester Loyal said:
theplayingmantis said:
network rail are the biggest issue with railway trouble.

a bigger bunch of s there never was.

going back to the old days of drunken irish navies would be an improvement on many of the 'characters' that NR employ in there 'maintenance' teams...but that's a story for the annoying (disgusting, scummy, antisocial, council, offensive) things people do on train thread from what ive seen over 10 years of commuting.
How come?
the east coast mainline is constantly suffering infrastructure issues, even when repaired the same thing fails the next day. over running engineering works after BH's consistently, stupid scheduling of freight trains, etc etc.

re the crews. well the majority ive travelled with on train are feet on seats, swearing loudly, leaving empty tinnies on seats and chucking them at each other sorts. now im no angel after a boozy night but theres a time and place for such behavior and peak times and during the day time with kids about isnt it.