E60 535D vs F30 330D
Discussion
Hi guys,
Would like input from the people who have driven both or either, I have been told that a standard F30 330D would have a standard 535D, which is probably possible due to weight to ratio.
However having just remapped my 535D (LCI) now running 352 BHP and 750 NM of torque I am totally shocked at how bloody fast this thing is! It goes like wind! I've not had chance to proper put the power down as the weather hasn't been great but I am sure that the F30 330D would stand no chance against it now! However wondered if a F30 330D got remapped would it make the same kind of power? Would it catch the E60 535D?
Would like input from the people who have driven both or either, I have been told that a standard F30 330D would have a standard 535D, which is probably possible due to weight to ratio.
However having just remapped my 535D (LCI) now running 352 BHP and 750 NM of torque I am totally shocked at how bloody fast this thing is! It goes like wind! I've not had chance to proper put the power down as the weather hasn't been great but I am sure that the F30 330D would stand no chance against it now! However wondered if a F30 330D got remapped would it make the same kind of power? Would it catch the E60 535D?
Welshbeef said:
Mr Whippy said:
E60 M5 ftw!
Lol E60 M5 for the win in a thread about a E60 535d (mapped) v F30 330d. Only on PHDiesel ubiquity will mean residual oblivion so the M5 day to day running costs may be easily offset by firm residuals.
I'm not sure being able to think beyond a binary choice is exclusive to PH members.
Mr Whippy said:
If a brisk E60 is important then an M5 should be considered.
Diesel ubiquity will mean residual oblivion so the M5 day to day running costs may be easily offset by firm residuals.
I'm not sure being able to think beyond a binary choice is exclusive to PH members.
But he owns a E60 535d that he has just mapped so changing it now would be oddDiesel ubiquity will mean residual oblivion so the M5 day to day running costs may be easily offset by firm residuals.
I'm not sure being able to think beyond a binary choice is exclusive to PH members.
Mr Whippy said:
Diesel ubiquity will mean residual oblivion so the M5 day to day running costs may be easily offset by firm residuals.
Surely no non M5 E60 is worth enough these days for residuals to exceed M5 running costs even if it depreciated to nothing?I doubt its possible to pay more than £9-10k for one these days.
Fox- said:
Surely no non M5 E60 is worth enough these days for residuals to exceed M5 running costs even if it depreciated to nothing?
I doubt its possible to pay more than £9-10k for one these days.
That’s a fair point - though a lovely touring M Sport version non M5 is a great car to keep long term. I doubt its possible to pay more than £9-10k for one these days.
E60 M5 that’s an interesting option ruinous fuel consumption but it’s a 204/207mph car and a V10 N/A 8,500rpm race engine. A lot of appeal but it’s hugely costly.
Fox- said:
Surely no non M5 E60 is worth enough these days for residuals to exceed M5 running costs even if it depreciated to nothing?
I doubt its possible to pay more than £9-10k for one these days.
E60 535d in 5 years or 10 years = worthlessI doubt its possible to pay more than £9-10k for one these days.
E60 M5 = £10k+
Thus £1000 - £2000 a year to spend on fuel/maintenance above/beyond 535d mapped.
Plus it's an M5!
Welshbeef said:
But he owns a E60 535d that he has just mapped so changing it now would be odd
Life is short.If you can get similar ppm over a medium term ownership wouldn't you run an M5?
The mileage and storage probably dictate viability but say you do 8k miles a year and have a garage and insurance isn't daft I'd go for it... especially if you like the E60 and speed
Mr Whippy said:
Life is short.
If you can get similar ppm over a medium term ownership wouldn't you run an M5?
The mileage and storage probably dictate viability but say you do 8k miles a year and have a garage and insurance isn't daft I'd go for it... especially if you like the E60 and speed
Stop tempting me I love that V10 noise. If you can get similar ppm over a medium term ownership wouldn't you run an M5?
The mileage and storage probably dictate viability but say you do 8k miles a year and have a garage and insurance isn't daft I'd go for it... especially if you like the E60 and speed
Welshbeef said:
Stop tempting me I love that V10 noise.
Haha.When you've put £28,000 into a 66 reg 335d (not mapped), and then see M5s for possibly 2/3rds the ppm for your intended use, you do feel like you've been shafted.
But the wife likes the 3er.
In this case though I'd go for a 335d over a 330d f30 if a rapid diesel car was the goal.
Before we got our 335d a salesman tried saying we wouldn't notice difference from a 330d they had.
You could, lots.
Edited by Mr Whippy on Saturday 3rd March 15:46
Mr Whippy said:
Haha.
When you've put £28,000 into a 66 reg 335d (not mapped), and then see M5s for possibly 2/3rds the ppm for your intended use, you do feel like you've been shafted.
But the wife likes the 3er.
In this case though I'd go for a 335d over a 330d f30 if a rapid diesel car was the goal.
I’m getting tired of my F10 535d pre LCI 4 years this Oct. lovely car as new condition and maintained properly. When you've put £28,000 into a 66 reg 335d (not mapped), and then see M5s for possibly 2/3rds the ppm for your intended use, you do feel like you've been shafted.
But the wife likes the 3er.
In this case though I'd go for a 335d over a 330d f30 if a rapid diesel car was the goal.
Clearly it’s now at the point where depreciation is likely to be non existent but it’s a wonderful car.
However The big power draws those F10 M5 isn’t a lot these days ditto the same age E63
njw1 said:
The power to weight ratio may be similar between the 535d and the 330d but nobody's mentioned that the f30 has two more gears than the e60 which on a diesel with a narrow power band is going to make a difference IMO.
?One has 360bhp one has 254bhp.
The F30 is lighter but not by that much to counter big BHP - else you’ll be saying the F30 330d will school the E60 M5 when it’s in the 400bhp mode
njw1 said:
My bad, I used the standard figures for a 535d when I worked out the power/weight ratios, but, I still think the ZF8 box in the 330d would put it in with a shout of keeping up with the 535d, an M5 other hand? Not a chance! 
Standard they are around the 165bhp/tonne ehich is Fiat Coupe 20V turbo fast. Edited by njw1 on Saturday 3rd March 21:38
Remapped what 200bhp/tonne ish/probably less. Decent but nothing other worldly.
E60 M5 is 250bhp+ per tonne and 507 all up giving it a 204-207mph top speed (much higher than the F10)
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