Jouplast paving risers
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rednotdead

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242 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Anyone any experience with paving risers from the likes of Jouplast et al? It seems the answer to my problem - I have a mixture of levels that I want paving and have been quoted really silly money to have a patio laid traditionally. These seem easy for a DIYer, providing the sub base is ok. I also like the fact I can route drainage and lighting cables underneath with easy access should it be required.

Any real world experience?

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

252 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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We have used the decking risers for a couple of decked areas. Only been down there for about a year but so far no issues whatsoever. Product seemed well made and is holding up the decks fine

RC1807

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184 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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OP: like these:



This was from when our house was built in 2013. They're commonly used on the continent. NO idea how easy they are to instal though. There are drains under the patio and path and snow melts quickly and drains away.

Finished pic, when it was first laid:


rednotdead

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Monday 5th March 2018
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^^ that's them. Looks good.

RC1807

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184 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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One thing, every now and then I'll walk along the side path of the house and a slab will tilt up, then slam down.... but step on the same slab again and it won't move! Odd.

Eddieslofart

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99 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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We use these exclusively, they’re excellent.

https://www.kinley.co.uk/products/terrace/support-...

For less trafficed situations, we’ll use the stackable discs.


Jonesy23

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152 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Assume these need small format and/or thick pavers given the minimal amount of support?

RC1807

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184 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Mine are 4 cm thick slabs... 1 broke last year and we can't find a matching replacement frown

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

99 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Jonesy23 said:
Assume these need small format and/or thick pavers given the minimal amount of support?

You’ll always want the thicker slabs on supports. Or put an additional support in the middle.

rednotdead

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Tuesday 6th March 2018
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The company I'm talking to offer 2cm thick porcelain tiles at 60x60 and recommend 4 supports per tile. I'm off to their showroom for a good nosey.

Edited by rednotdead on Tuesday 6th March 10:57

Eddieslofart

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99 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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rednotdead said:
The company I'm talking to offer 2cm thick porcelain tiles at 60x60 and recommend 4 supports per tile. I'm off to their showroom for a good nosey.

Edited by rednotdead on Tuesday 6th March 10:57
Don’t drop anything of weight on them !

rednotdead

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242 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Yeah - this is what is worrying me. I suspect 5 supports per tile to be safe.

LaurasOtherHalf

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212 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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Did you get any further with these OP?

BaldOldMan

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80 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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I’m just embarking on this project - I bought 100 of a brand called castle - I went with theirs as I’m running through from inside to out and they were the only ones I could find with 3mm spacers which is what the indoor gaps are.

Inside are 10mm porcelain, outside 20mm and a slightly rougher texture, but still 600x600 porcelain tiles.

I’ve only had a quick play so far, but I opted for the levelling heads, but they seem to make levelling harder as they tilt when there’s only a tile in place on one corner........

They do seem pretty solid though - but the dropping something heavy is my concern too, but I’ll just keep a few spares as they would be easily replaced so no big deal unless it became a regular occurence.

LaurasOtherHalf

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212 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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How much are you paying for them? They seem pretty expensive for what they are, especially as I've calculated I'd need a heck of a lot!

BaldOldMan

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80 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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Around £5 each depending on height - and whether you add the levelling heads and vibration mat things (I did) - but would be something like £3.50 without

https://www.roofinglines.co.uk/product/castle-adju...

If you’re anywhere near Peterborough you’re welcome to come and try them out.

LaurasOtherHalf

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212 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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BaldOldMan said:
Around £5 each depending on height - and whether you add the levelling heads and vibration mat things (I did) - but would be something like £3.50 without

https://www.roofinglines.co.uk/product/castle-adju...

If you’re anywhere near Peterborough you’re welcome to come and try them out.
Very kind, but no where near! Bloody expensive way of doing it though-I reckon I need between 150 to 160 porcelain tiles to cover my area.

RC1807 said:
OP: like these:



This was from when our house was built in 2013. They're commonly used on the continent. NO idea how easy they are to instal though. There are drains under the patio and path and snow melts quickly and drains away.

Finished pic, when it was first laid:

What are these ones laid on? It actually looks like sand (I'm sure it isn't).

BaldOldMan

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80 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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They aren’t cheap - I’ve bought enough to do the first of 3 levels in mine - but as I want a flush threshold to the house they seem best - if I get on with them I may well use for the lower levels too.

If you’re planning porcelain, then be aware that it’s non porous so you’ll need a decent fall and drainage. Also special adhesive onto whatever base layer you have.

With these the drainage is through the gaps, no adhesive and no grout - so it means I can plod through them with little more than a spirit level and do them at whatever rate I like. As it’s all dry, any mistakes are easily rectified.

All in I think it will work out cheaper for me - excluding the notional cost of my time.

LaurasOtherHalf

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212 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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BaldOldMan said:
They aren’t cheap - I’ve bought enough to do the first of 3 levels in mine - but as I want a flush threshold to the house they seem best - if I get on with them I may well use for the lower levels too.

If you’re planning porcelain, then be aware that it’s non porous so you’ll need a decent fall and drainage. Also special adhesive onto whatever base layer you have.

With these the drainage is through the gaps, no adhesive and no grout - so it means I can plod through them with little more than a spirit level and do them at whatever rate I like. As it’s all dry, any mistakes are easily rectified.

All in I think it will work out cheaper for me - excluding the notional cost of my time.
That's my thought as well Bald, minus the slurry, jointing compound etc plus the not insignificant £3600 to get my tamed groundworker to fit the buggers it's going to work out cheaper using the risers (if like you, I fit them myself).

Unfortunately I want to site the hot tub on part of this area so there will more than likely need a change of surface where that goes as there's no way I'm sitting it on these.

Does anyone know if I can put these risers straight onto compacted sand?

BaldOldMan

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80 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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Not sure about sand - most of mine are going over concrete, but some will be over compacted MOT

This guide shows them being used over gravel.....

https://www.tilemountain.co.uk/blog/installing-out...