Passengers screaming when experiencing supercars...
Passengers screaming when experiencing supercars...
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Ilovecbrs599999

Original Poster:

57 posts

111 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Why do people have this reaction in a supercar? My motorbike can do 0-60 in less than 3 seconds and the first time I experienced it, it was not a huge deal at all (the way passengers in supercars make it out to be terrifying) and isn't now either but it's immensely fun.
Even Guy Martin when in a Ferrari FXX.... I mean I'm thinking what the heck man? You ride in the TT... why is the feeling not normal? Is it because motorcyclists are used to it on a motorcycle but not used to it in a car? Or the force of seat on you in a car is distributed throughout whole of body or what?

tvrolet

4,769 posts

313 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Leaning forward, holding on and weight through the feet versus leaning back and sitting like a sack of tatties and getting pushed forward.

Plus no ‘connection’ to the driver; you’re just a passenger in a different seat.

Plus on the bike you can’t hear them scream anyway.

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Isn't it psychological? A bike feels fast from the moment you set off because you're so exposed.

A car feels inherently big, so something so fast is totally unnatural. A fast but comfy saloon is like being propelled in a moving cathedral.

That's before you get to the corners of course.

Biker's Nemesis

41,478 posts

239 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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I screamed the first time I was a passenger in a 1000 bhp GT-R..

... and the second and third time....

2ndclasscitizen

504 posts

148 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Ilovecbrs599999 said:
Why do people have this reaction in a supercar? My motorbike can do 0-60 in less than 3 seconds and the first time I experienced it, it was not a huge deal at all (the way passengers in supercars make it out to be terrifying) and isn't now either but it's immensely fun.
Something to also consider is while you're doing a hard launch you're concentrating on performing said launch, matching the throttle and clutch slip, hovering over the rear brake to keep the nose down, getting shifts right, etc etc. I know for me when I had my 1000 and used to go to the drags a lot running in the 10s the excitement and rush didn't hit me until I crossed the line at the end. Whereas when I got a passenger ride in a full-on Group A Prodrive STI, the full bore launch on dirt felt way more exciting even though it was likely slower .

You should also bear in mind that as a motorcyclist you have a different scale of fast. What most people here would consider a sensible first bike (an A2 or what we call LAMS here in Oz) is as quick as a decent hot hatch, whereas for most people the quickest thing they've ever experienced is a brief bit of full throttle in a Golf GTI. A full-bore run with launch control in a supercar is a totally foreign experience for them.

Birky_41

4,659 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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As said already different positioning I reckon

A good mate of mine has a couple quick bikes but also a 920bhp very special F10 M5 and that made me wince a bit when he punched it on a rolling start

Being punched in the chest back into a seat from a very fast car is quite a different experience

bogie

17,106 posts

303 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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On the bike you are the rider and hanging onto the bars....being a passenger in a car you really feel the full effect of the g force

Anyone tried to keep a pillion on board on the back of their sports bike whilst they attempt to match those 3 second 0 to 60 times you read about in the magazines. ? ...I suspect there might be a bit of screaming, if they manage to stay attached to you smile


obscene

5,180 posts

216 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Probably the amount of mass being thrust forward in said speed. Makes it seem faster, least it does to me.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

283 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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It's simply more physical in a car. My A class gets to 60 in around 4 but its a car...with the radio on and a dog in the boot.....hence the sensation of travelling far faster than something so big should, is more obvious.

There's no weight (or little) to overcome on a bike so it simply has less sensation of defying physics.

Not to mention - if you got close too 3 secs with a passenger on a bike they might well scream!

cmaguire

3,589 posts

140 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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3 seconds 0-60?
Some bikes might do it, but most of those claiming they are doing it are full of st.


STe_rsv4

1,286 posts

129 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Tiggsy said:
It's simply more physical in a car. My A class gets to 60 in around 4 but its a car...with the radio on and a dog in the boot....!
I bet your dog fking loves that!laugh

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I've been in a few "supercars", but had to ask to be let out to throw up when I was in my mate's GT3 RS a couple of years ago. biglaugh

I definitely feel better on the bikes. You get thrown around so much in a car.

I'm getting old man...


STe_rsv4

1,286 posts

129 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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cmaguire said:
3 seconds 0-60?
Some bikes might do it, but most of those claiming they are doing it are full of st.
This. I've no doubt the bike will do it.
Makes me laugh when bikers claim their 0-60 times. Wonder what percentage can actually do it in 3?

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I have a fast track car and had a few quick bikes, surely the correct comparison is between the driver of the super car and the bike? The passenger on both is more likely to scream than the driver/rider who hopefully is looking further head, knows what he is planning etc I've certainly had a punch in things appear to happen faster than they do t the rider who has anticipated them. so it appears to happen faster

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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STe_rsv4 said:
Makes me laugh when bikers claim their 0-60 times. Wonder what percentage can actually do it in 3?
That's still true of cars as well for the most part though. So a bit moot really.



moanthebairns

19,177 posts

229 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I've been known to stamp my feet for a brake, yelp and feel sick being a passenger in a Honda Jazz, a decade of being the driver scares the st out of me being a passenger in any car.

HorneyMX5

5,808 posts

181 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Torque is the biggest difference. Super cars etc have a shed load more of it and this is what gives you the really hard shove on acceleration.

Integroo

11,631 posts

116 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I'm not a biker and I am pretty sure I would scream if I was on the back of a super bike doing 0-60 in 3 seconds.

tvrolet

4,769 posts

313 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I could easily do 0-60 on my bike in sub 3 seconds. Guaranteed.









I could also do it on any other bike, or a car, or bicycle, or even on foot. All it needs is a cliff and the inclination to ride/drive/jump off.

Biker's Nemesis

41,478 posts

239 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I have some old tickets from a PB ZX9 Vs R1 Frenzy where I did standing 1/4 and top speed runs in the pissing wet. I'll have a look and see what my times were. It was back in 2001 I think.