MT07 Suspension Upgrades - Hyperpro / Ohlins or Nitron
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Planning a rear shock, spring and front fork spring+oil upgrade for my 2016 MT07.
For around the same money I seem to have 3 options:
1) Nitron NTR R1 Rear Shock & Spring (setup for 75-80kg) plus Hyperpro Progressive Front Fork Springs plus Oil
2) Ohlins Street Performance Shock & Spring plus Ohlins Fork Springs & Oil (seems to be one size fits all and linear springs)
3) Hyperpro Streetbox Shock & Spring plus Progressive Fork Springs & Oil (seems to be one size fits all and progressive springs)
The bike is going to be used overwhelmingly on the road and I don't usually ride like my pants are on fire! Nonetheless, less bouncyness, less fork dive under braking and generally a more resolved bike through the twisties would be great.
I've not seen any bad feedback about any of these kits and appreciate I will need to arrange some setup to get the best out of any of them.
Any tips or advice please?
For around the same money I seem to have 3 options:
1) Nitron NTR R1 Rear Shock & Spring (setup for 75-80kg) plus Hyperpro Progressive Front Fork Springs plus Oil
2) Ohlins Street Performance Shock & Spring plus Ohlins Fork Springs & Oil (seems to be one size fits all and linear springs)
3) Hyperpro Streetbox Shock & Spring plus Progressive Fork Springs & Oil (seems to be one size fits all and progressive springs)
The bike is going to be used overwhelmingly on the road and I don't usually ride like my pants are on fire! Nonetheless, less bouncyness, less fork dive under braking and generally a more resolved bike through the twisties would be great.
I've not seen any bad feedback about any of these kits and appreciate I will need to arrange some setup to get the best out of any of them.
Any tips or advice please?
I had an Ohlins shock and Andreani fork internals fitted to my Tiger 800 a couple of weeks ago - it's made a massive difference to the ride - so much more compliant and much less skittish.
Are you fitting them yourself or using a garage? I used a well-respected suspension specialist to set the bike up for me.
Are you fitting them yourself or using a garage? I used a well-respected suspension specialist to set the bike up for me.
Go for the Nitron. Excellent service and the correct spring for your weight.
Regarding the Ohlins it might be very nice but without confirmation of the spring I wouldn't recommend. Trust me, one size does not fit all.
Also, for road use progressive springs in the front are much nicer.
Regarding the Ohlins it might be very nice but without confirmation of the spring I wouldn't recommend. Trust me, one size does not fit all.
Also, for road use progressive springs in the front are much nicer.
I have the Nitron in the xsr900.
Steve is correct the off the shelf Ohlins is an improvement over a standard one, however the Nitron is sprung and damped for the person they are building it for.
It has a build sheet in the box, signed by the guy who put it together (big kid in me likes this).
It's why my cash went to them.
Front end, springs and oil will make a small difference but many people have fitted them only to end up buying cartridges later on.
It's the damping that is lacking in the front, you can bodge it with thicker oil but it's still not solving the underling problem.
Nothing to stop you getting the shock now and trying it for a while, then decideing on the front cartridges later on.
Steve is correct the off the shelf Ohlins is an improvement over a standard one, however the Nitron is sprung and damped for the person they are building it for.
It has a build sheet in the box, signed by the guy who put it together (big kid in me likes this).
It's why my cash went to them.
Front end, springs and oil will make a small difference but many people have fitted them only to end up buying cartridges later on.
It's the damping that is lacking in the front, you can bodge it with thicker oil but it's still not solving the underling problem.
Nothing to stop you getting the shock now and trying it for a while, then decideing on the front cartridges later on.
I put the Nitron R1 on mine and then put the stiffer ohlin springs in the forks with a 15 weight oil and reduced the air gap to around 130mm.
I’m very pleased with the result, especially the Nitron, quality piece of kit.
I managed to find a virtually new shock on eBay for £280 and the springs new for £60. If you’re patient you can find them on eBay every now and again.
I did all the work myself it’s not difficult, the rear shock takes around 45 mins to change.
I’m very pleased with the result, especially the Nitron, quality piece of kit.
I managed to find a virtually new shock on eBay for £280 and the springs new for £60. If you’re patient you can find them on eBay every now and again.
I did all the work myself it’s not difficult, the rear shock takes around 45 mins to change.
Edited by YouWhat on Sunday 11th March 19:47
Thanks guys, my head said go for the Nitron plus progressive Hyperpro fork springs and oil so I've ordered these.
There seems to be some lead in time for the Nitron shocks and having had the bike for 2 years I'm keen to get on with it rather than waiting to save every last penny.
Aside from these the bike has a Puig Touring screen (always wondered whether anyone will produce a bigger one), Mivv Ti can, Vtrec adjustable levers, Gilles footpegs, Oxford heated grips, Optimate USB charging and Ram mount so think this is about as far as I'll ever take this bike!
There seems to be some lead in time for the Nitron shocks and having had the bike for 2 years I'm keen to get on with it rather than waiting to save every last penny.
Aside from these the bike has a Puig Touring screen (always wondered whether anyone will produce a bigger one), Mivv Ti can, Vtrec adjustable levers, Gilles footpegs, Oxford heated grips, Optimate USB charging and Ram mount so think this is about as far as I'll ever take this bike!
I test rode an MT07 the other day, I'm looking at one to replace my KTM 690, as it's just a constant liability.
The engine was great, but I was really surprised how bad the suspension was, it felt like I was riding a jellyfish.
Have you upgraded yours yet? I think if I bought one this would be first on the list.
The engine was great, but I was really surprised how bad the suspension was, it felt like I was riding a jellyfish.
Have you upgraded yours yet? I think if I bought one this would be first on the list.
Yes !
Long since sold the bike still upgraded (got an MT10 now) but I still miss it... It was a thing of beauty on the Nitron shock / spring tailored to my weight and the Hyperpro progressive front fork spring and oil kit. I got the more standard Nitron shock (not the one with the external reservoir) and its brilliant.
Long since sold the bike still upgraded (got an MT10 now) but I still miss it... It was a thing of beauty on the Nitron shock / spring tailored to my weight and the Hyperpro progressive front fork spring and oil kit. I got the more standard Nitron shock (not the one with the external reservoir) and its brilliant.
jonindorset said:
Yes !
Long since sold the bike still upgraded (got an MT10 now) but I still miss it... It was a thing of beauty on the Nitron shock / spring tailored to my weight and the Hyperpro progressive front fork spring and oil kit. I got the more standard Nitron shock (not the one with the external reservoir) and its brilliant.
Cool. Would you mind listing was you bought/did? Difficult to follow the whole thing, and googling seems to throw up so many versions of everything.Long since sold the bike still upgraded (got an MT10 now) but I still miss it... It was a thing of beauty on the Nitron shock / spring tailored to my weight and the Hyperpro progressive front fork spring and oil kit. I got the more standard Nitron shock (not the one with the external reservoir) and its brilliant.
I've just bought a shock from https://shock-factory.co.uk/
I came across a mention of them on another forum and thought I would take a look.
They really come across as going about things the right way and you get the equivalent of the base Nitron (for example) for £350.
Mine is still in the post but I would be happy to update when it arrives although it may be a little while before I get round to fitting it.
I've already got the Hyperpro progressive springs and oil. It was recommended by JHS (SV650 experts). I was dubious about how much difference it would make but its been really worthwhile. I don't know how much is oil (correct air gap etc.) and how much the springs but I would recommend it.
Just a quick update - Shock Factory are listing at £300 now and you pay the duty to the delivering company (their factory is based in France) - dpd at the moment. Its a painless enough process so don't be put off and my shock sprung to my weight and use was in the UK ready for delivery to me inside of three days. I expect it would be a shade over £350 all paid and delivered.
I came across a mention of them on another forum and thought I would take a look.
They really come across as going about things the right way and you get the equivalent of the base Nitron (for example) for £350.
Mine is still in the post but I would be happy to update when it arrives although it may be a little while before I get round to fitting it.
I've already got the Hyperpro progressive springs and oil. It was recommended by JHS (SV650 experts). I was dubious about how much difference it would make but its been really worthwhile. I don't know how much is oil (correct air gap etc.) and how much the springs but I would recommend it.
Just a quick update - Shock Factory are listing at £300 now and you pay the duty to the delivering company (their factory is based in France) - dpd at the moment. Its a painless enough process so don't be put off and my shock sprung to my weight and use was in the UK ready for delivery to me inside of three days. I expect it would be a shade over £350 all paid and delivered.
Edited by trickywoo on Thursday 14th January 12:47
Killboy said:
Cool. Would you mind listing was you bought/did? Difficult to follow the whole thing, and googling seems to throw up so many versions of everything.
Nitron R1 shock - give them your weight, usage profile and whether you carry a pillion and they customise it for you. Nitron.co.uk direct.Hyperpro spring kit for the front like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hyperpro-Progressive-Fr...
Krikkit said:
Killboy said:
Cool. Would you mind listing was you bought/did? Difficult to follow the whole thing, and googling seems to throw up so many versions of everything.
Nitron R1 shock - give them your weight, usage profile and whether you carry a pillion and they customise it for you. Nitron.co.uk direct.Hyperpro spring kit for the front like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hyperpro-Progressive-Fr...
As a former owner of an MT-07, can I suggest upgrading the bike completely. The engine on the MT is great, but the bike is flawed in so many ways. I now have a Street Triple and it's superior in every way. If it is within your means I would reconsider the bike as a whole. A new shock will improve it, but you're still polishing a turd.
Beschy said:
As a former owner of an MT-07, can I suggest upgrading the bike completely. The engine on the MT is great, but the bike is flawed in so many ways. I now have a Street Triple and it's superior in every way. If it is within your means I would reconsider the bike as a whole. A new shock will improve it, but you're still polishing a turd.
I think you're being overly harsh, its like comparing apples and oranges, they are very very different bikes. Motorcycles are very much horses for courses in my opinion, they perform very different roles, much more than cars. I moved from a sports bike (CBR600) to the MT07 having discounted the Street Triple (I test rode an STR) - because it was far too much like a sports bike! My neck and my shoulders were telling me I needed to be much more upright. Yes its a bit cheap and cheerful in places but the engine is an absolute peach and some people just adore twins and the slug of torque - totally different in character to a triple (which to be honest feels little different from an inline 4). The MT07 also feels considerably lighter, more agile and more flickable than the Street. For urban / semi rural and commuting, the MT07 is very hard to beat in my opinion, also likely to be more reliable and cheaper to run too.
Yeah, I'm not sure thats apples with apples. We looked at a variety of bikes, but considering he had just passed his test (30ish, but new to biking), and he needs to park it on London streets, the MT-07 made the most sense: newbie friendly, well priced, insurance cost "reasonable", etc. On insurance alone the Triumph was a non starter.
And its been absolutely brilliant. That bike has been all over Europe, touring the Alps, Italian coast, etc. Its fun to ride, and does its job well and has the accessories needed to bolt on things like panniers and go. Yamaha really hit a perfect balance with that bike
And its been absolutely brilliant. That bike has been all over Europe, touring the Alps, Italian coast, etc. Its fun to ride, and does its job well and has the accessories needed to bolt on things like panniers and go. Yamaha really hit a perfect balance with that bike
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