Trying to Order an F90 M5 (Waiting Time)
Trying to Order an F90 M5 (Waiting Time)
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Extra 300 Driver

Original Poster:

5,282 posts

271 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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As title, I am trying to order one, but I have been told that I wont get delivery before January 2019!

The dealer Park Lane, says there are only 4 coming in the country this year - seriously?

I notice Shmee on YT got one quite sharpish.

Brainpox

4,302 posts

176 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Extra 300 Driver said:
I notice Shmee on YT got one quite sharpish.
Of course he did. He's an advertisement board, not an owner.

JMBMWM5

2,389 posts

223 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Brainpox said:
Of course he did. He's an advertisement board, not an owner.
He is based in Germany also, not here.

w8pmc

3,385 posts

263 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Some of the larger BMW groups are quoting a 12-18mth waiting list. If what i was told is correct, most dealers will have long since sold their 2018 & well into 2019 allocation as supply is to a degree limited.

I had a day 1 car on order, but cancelled 3 weeks ago, so the next in line who would have been waiting until July/August will now get theirs at the end of April.

Archerfield

10 posts

100 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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I've got an order in for a May delivery. Still undecided whether to go ahead or not. With a decent spec price gets close to 95k. I got one of the first f10 m5s and then watched as the price tumbled.

Got to make my mind up tomorrow.

skeeterm5

4,506 posts

213 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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I cant even get my local dealer to commit to any delivery time, no even a daft one.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

223 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Archerfield said:
I've got an order in for a May delivery. Still undecided whether to go ahead or not. With a decent spec price gets close to 95k. I got one of the first f10 m5s and then watched as the price tumbled.

Got to make my mind up tomorrow.
Can you sell your position in he queue so making a mating for you for simply pressing the button early and deposit down? Or is it a no no for BMW...

garystoybox

891 posts

142 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Surely nobody is going to sucked into ‘12-18 month waiting list’. DP told me some production hold ups and cars running a couple of months behind. So far they have only been given initial allocation but more are to be released/confirmed mid year. Given the deals on E63s and alternatives, why will things be any different this time on discounts/car production? Granted this was 3 weeks ago and things may have moved on, but I was offered a car for early summer with a reasonably high single figure discount. Fair play to anybody with name down, get in early, enjoy it, etc, but anybody who pays a premium will undoubtedly pay a heavy cost 18 months down the line imo.

breadvan

2,116 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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There was an identical thread about the M2 not long ago.......

w8pmc

3,385 posts

263 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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garystoybox said:
Surely nobody is going to sucked into ‘12-18 month waiting list’. DP told me some production hold ups and cars running a couple of months behind. So far they have only been given initial allocation but more are to be released/confirmed mid year. Given the deals on E63s and alternatives, why will things be any different this time on discounts/car production? Granted this was 3 weeks ago and things may have moved on, but I was offered a car for early summer with a reasonably high single figure discount. Fair play to anybody with name down, get in early, enjoy it, etc, but anybody who pays a premium will undoubtedly pay a heavy cost 18 months down the line imo.
Although we all know Car Dealers like to exaggerate, why would they lie about waiting lists?? Customer walks in with £90k in a briefcase, dealer says no car for 12-18mths, i'd say that's pretty conclusive as if was BS then surely said dealers would miraculously find a car/allocation slot.

Am somewhat regretting cancelling my 1st slot order, as bought into the negative hype that these cars had no real waiting list & it was dealer/BMW BS, turns out after all it was true.

nbetts

1,455 posts

254 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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w8pmc said:
Customer walks in with £90k in a briefcase, dealer says no car for 12-18mths, i'd say that's pretty conclusive as if was BS then surely said dealers would miraculously find a car/allocation slot.
I think you would find that taking £90k cash to the car dealer would result in you being shown the door...

I think the maximum they will take cash nowadays is between 2-5k for money laundering reasons...

Happy to be wrong but a few years ago I was going to pay cash and the dealer hated the idea, said he would not accept it and if he did he would like to charge me a fee for counting and security...

Tis a strange world.

w8pmc

3,385 posts

263 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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nbetts said:
I think you would find that taking £90k cash to the car dealer would result in you being shown the door...

I think the maximum they will take cash nowadays is between 2-5k for money laundering reasons...

Happy to be wrong but a few years ago I was going to pay cash and the dealer hated the idea, said he would not accept it and if he did he would like to charge me a fee for counting and security...

Tis a strange world.
Agreed, but the analogy i felt was correct. If a genuine buyer walks into a BMW M dealer with the funds/approval to proceed with the £90-100k purchase, no dealer is going to lie & say that no car or allocation is available. Would be a strange business model to turn genuine buyers away.

Schermerhorn

4,352 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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breadvan said:
There was an identical thread about the M2 not long ago.......
And the M4.....

And the F10 M5......

These 'waiting lists' vanish very quickly.

garystoybox

891 posts

142 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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w8pmc said:
Although we all know Car Dealers like to exaggerate, why would they lie about waiting lists?? Customer walks in with £90k in a briefcase, dealer says no car for 12-18mths, i'd say that's pretty conclusive as if was BS then surely said dealers would miraculously find a car/allocation slot.

Am somewhat regretting cancelling my 1st slot order, as bought into the negative hype that these cars had no real waiting list & it was dealer/BMW BS, turns out after all it was true.
Don’t think they are lying about waiting list, simply stating that they have no additional allocation at the moment. This is exactly the same as happened with the M2, with additional slots being released by BMW and people suddenly finding cars appearing quicker and more readily then the hype of scarcity led them to believe. This is not a limited edition production car. I think the last two M5’s were registered at a rate of c600 per year into the UK. Across c100 dealers in the UK this works out at 6 per dealership. My regular Cooper dealership told me they been allocated 4 plus demo for current year, so roughly in line with previous. If there is more demand than previously, I would have thought BMW will simply build more cars as they don’t give a hoot about protecting values for the early adopters imo.

mikeyscott

1,200 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Brainpox said:
Extra 300 Driver said:
I notice Shmee on YT got one quite sharpish.
Of course he did. He's an advertisement board, not an owner.
Annoying YT too, mind you not as bad as Archie H and others.

JMBMWM5

2,389 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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BMW's way of keeping prices HIGH, waiting lists will disappear soon when first benders wake up and pull out, The prices will come down next year, but the poor old first benders will pay big.

HoHoHo

15,386 posts

275 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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JMBMWM5 said:
Brainpox said:
Of course he did. He's an advertisement board, not an owner.
He is based in Germany also, not here.
He has his for 3 months on loan - not a bad FOC deal.

However, am I the only one that finds him really annoying?

He’s the sorry of person you want to say........just f-off, no really, f-off.

Extra 300 Driver

Original Poster:

5,282 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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Thanks for the reply, I wasn't really implying that the dealer was lying, I just wanted to know if this was a normal situation for an M car, it seems it is.

Having looked a bit deeper in to it, its because of the spec. Some of the options I have listed are not going in to production until November, so effectively my wait starts from there. I have been told, that there will be a number of people who will pull out, and I should come forward a bit.

Cant wait to get a demo, that should be fun


Andy M

3,755 posts

284 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Has this arrived sooner than expected? I recall the Competition Pack only being available 3 years after the introduction of the F10 M5?

‘New BMW M5 Competition Pack confirmed for 2018’: http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m5/20976/new-bmw-m5-compe...

HoHoHo

15,386 posts

275 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Andy M said:
Has this arrived sooner than expected? I recall the Competition Pack only being available 3 years after the introduction of the F10 M5?

‘New BMW M5 Competition Pack confirmed for 2018’: http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m5/20976/new-bmw-m5-compe...
So you can’t take delivery yet of a standard M5 however BMW are already talking about a better version of the car.....

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