I went out on the S1000R at the weekend....
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Very tempted by these - getting a new road bike after writing off my track bike.
I had a look round one and seem well put together and alot of tech for the cost on the sport.
Only thing stopping me is the new triumph speed triple, monster 1200s, KTM 790 and the new cb1000r coming out...
What's it like to live with day to day?
I had a look round one and seem well put together and alot of tech for the cost on the sport.
Only thing stopping me is the new triumph speed triple, monster 1200s, KTM 790 and the new cb1000r coming out...
What's it like to live with day to day?
TommyBuoy said:
Very tempted by these - getting a new road bike after writing off my track bike.
I had a look round one and seem well put together and alot of tech for the cost on the sport.
Only thing stopping me is the new triumph speed triple, monster 1200s, KTM 790 and the new cb1000r coming out...
What's it like to live with day to day?
It's fine as an everyday bike. I like to gently pootle around, it's usual for me to go for a 100 mile jaunt in a day. The tank rage is around 150 miles and its very comfy, the riding position makes it an easy bike to ride. Of course the ride options help, rain, road, dynamic and dynamic pro, it's been in dynamic since new, once in rain, dynamic pro, not yet. The suspension setting stays on road, but it's a fantastic setting.I had a look round one and seem well put together and alot of tech for the cost on the sport.
Only thing stopping me is the new triumph speed triple, monster 1200s, KTM 790 and the new cb1000r coming out...
What's it like to live with day to day?
There's a road, around 5 miles long, bumpy and all over the place, in the car you can feel the steering wheel move around the undulations but oddly on the S1000 it's one of my favorite roads, it souldn't be as it looks cr@p, however, you can see clearly, as it's a flat landscape and hedge-less, and the suspension sorts the ride out enough to smooth over the dips allowing for a fast ride.
Riding can ache wrists a little if sat in traffic but on the move, anything above 30mph, the air lifts the body enough to be comfy. The screen is great, it places the air into the chest leaving the helmet in clear air, a taller screen would lift the air into the helmet causing turbulence and neck ache, (depending on size I suppose but I'm 6ft).
I'd try one if you haven't yet, the stock exhaust stifles the sound, the little guy I fitted lets it sing beautifully, a header would be too much and stop you tracking the bike. Quick shift, a nice pop when it goes up, rattles an pops on the overrun and quick shift down with auto blip to make you feel happy.
I'm sure the Triumphs are great, I've had a Monster too, however I think the BMW is the best bike I've owned. If you want to just want to ride and not fettle or worry about the road being wet, I'd recommend one.
I'm at Silverstone 15th April if anyone is there!
This is the bike that got me wanting to learn to ride last year! Watched a few YouTube videos about bikes, stumbled across Royal Jordanian's commuting clips and was hooked on the S1000R (and his Nuda). As nice as the Nuda was, it was the tech inside the S1000R that amazed me - I'd never heard of an IMU.
I didn't quite have the balls to get one as my first bike after the DAS. Got a Street Triple RS instead. Three track days and 4k later, I wonder how I would have faired on a bike like yours. Have fun this summer
Edited to say: those look a lot like the M7RRs I've put on my Street.
I didn't quite have the balls to get one as my first bike after the DAS. Got a Street Triple RS instead. Three track days and 4k later, I wonder how I would have faired on a bike like yours. Have fun this summer
Edited to say: those look a lot like the M7RRs I've put on my Street.
Very nice.
This one is mine.
How do you find the front end feel on your R? Mine just feels a bit numb. I’m changing tyres from the M7RRs to the Pilot Power RS which are a more pliable carcass allowing more movement. I’m hoping it will translate to a bit more feel. I’ve also raised the forks through the yokes too, which hopefully will help with a bit more weight over the front.
That said I’ve never had any issues with grip every time I tip it in on the road or track it’s always stuck, I just can’t feel it sticking, if that makes sense....
This one is mine.
How do you find the front end feel on your R? Mine just feels a bit numb. I’m changing tyres from the M7RRs to the Pilot Power RS which are a more pliable carcass allowing more movement. I’m hoping it will translate to a bit more feel. I’ve also raised the forks through the yokes too, which hopefully will help with a bit more weight over the front.
That said I’ve never had any issues with grip every time I tip it in on the road or track it’s always stuck, I just can’t feel it sticking, if that makes sense....
UnluckyTimmeh said:
Very nice.
This one is mine.
How do you find the front end feel on your R? Mine just feels a bit numb. I’m changing tyres from the M7RRs to the Pilot Power RS which are a more pliable carcass allowing more movement. I’m hoping it will translate to a bit more feel. I’ve also raised the forks through the yokes too, which hopefully will help with a bit more weight over the front.
That said I’ve never had any issues with grip every time I tip it in on the road or track it’s always stuck, I just can’t feel it sticking, if that makes sense....
Was that photo in Scotland?This one is mine.
How do you find the front end feel on your R? Mine just feels a bit numb. I’m changing tyres from the M7RRs to the Pilot Power RS which are a more pliable carcass allowing more movement. I’m hoping it will translate to a bit more feel. I’ve also raised the forks through the yokes too, which hopefully will help with a bit more weight over the front.
That said I’ve never had any issues with grip every time I tip it in on the road or track it’s always stuck, I just can’t feel it sticking, if that makes sense....
UnluckyTimmeh said:
Very nice.
This one is mine.
How do you find the front end feel on your R? Mine just feels a bit numb. I’m changing tyres from the M7RRs to the Pilot Power RS which are a more pliable carcass allowing more movement. I’m hoping it will translate to a bit more feel. I’ve also raised the forks through the yokes too, which hopefully will help with a bit more weight over the front.
That said I’ve never had any issues with grip every time I tip it in on the road or track it’s always stuck, I just can’t feel it sticking, if that makes sense....
I've owned mine since new in 2016. I think the feel thing from the front end is a combination on the steering damper and a very rigid front end - you get used to it but is noticeable when jumping from bike to bike (I have FZ1S too and that feels too light/nervous after riding the S1000R).This one is mine.
How do you find the front end feel on your R? Mine just feels a bit numb. I’m changing tyres from the M7RRs to the Pilot Power RS which are a more pliable carcass allowing more movement. I’m hoping it will translate to a bit more feel. I’ve also raised the forks through the yokes too, which hopefully will help with a bit more weight over the front.
That said I’ve never had any issues with grip every time I tip it in on the road or track it’s always stuck, I just can’t feel it sticking, if that makes sense....
Just changed my front to a Pilot Power RS but not had a chance to really try it yet, plus it's matched to a wearing S20 for the next month or so after the weather picks up - curious how they will work/last.
Looks like you have the accessory screen too. OP, the BMW 'big' screen works well without buffeting, there's quite a bit of room around it's mounts which lets air around without turbulence, I only put mine on for long trips - does look weird at first from the riding position, sort of just floating in front of you.
Bike was great for the IoM last July (Southern100), 350miles through Wales to get there, 300miles motorway back and great fun in the island - does it all nicely, bit of vibes through the bars after some time on the motorway but cruise control means you can let go of them from time to time.
Love the look of your beemer especially with that exhaust. One of my old lot has just bought one to ride Europe with us for his 60th this year
He owns an sp1 and a trumpet 955/1050 rat bike. Said the beemer just does everything and the electronics are excellent
Also the exhaust really makes the bike feel more exciting to ride he said with the pops and crackles. He found it a touch bland before... But always mentions how bloody fast it is built upright
He owns an sp1 and a trumpet 955/1050 rat bike. Said the beemer just does everything and the electronics are excellent
Also the exhaust really makes the bike feel more exciting to ride he said with the pops and crackles. He found it a touch bland before... But always mentions how bloody fast it is built upright
I've been lucky enough to ride quite a few of both models (perks of working at a dealer).
This is entirely my opinion but, I think the 2017 model is let down a bit by it's suspension. It hasn't got enough adjustment in it for me. It only has two modes, road or dynamic. Dynamic is unusable on the road, far too hard, but works great on track. I ended up back in road at Cadwell as for me it kept becoming unsettled over the bumps in dynamic. So on the road for me, road mode is still too hard and the front has very little feeling to it. Hence the charges i'm trying at the mo.
Whereas the 2014-17 model had three modes soft, normal or hard. I found soft was near perfect on the road for my style of riding. I never got to try one on track so I can't comment on that side of things.
The way the DDC works on the 17 model is it varies the damping depending on the conditions. So a gentle throttle 30mph in 6th gear would be quite soft and compliant. Whereas nail the throttle and it will stiffen everything up because it knows it's going to be subject to higher loads.
The 14-17 model only works in set parameters in each of its modes, meaning people were finding they were having to faff about switching between modes while riding.
anyway enough of all that....
The pro's of the 17 over the earlier model to me were:
Quickshifter and blipper
Pit limiter (just because it's fun)
Launch control (same as above).
Better heated grips
Less vibey through the bars and pegs - This was often a big issue for people on the earlier model who were finding the mirrors would blur between 65-80mph in 6th gear. I've ridden some which are fine and some that were god awful.
That was the biggest change to be honest. The frame on the 17 is the 2015 onwards S1000RR frame with the electronics to match. The bars now have a rubber mount to reduce the vibes. They gave it an additional 5hp and changed the gearing which moved that vibey point up towards 90-ish which very few people cruise at. But again with the new frame and handlebars etc the vibrations aren't anywhere near as noticeable
Sorry to bore you all, just my 5p
This is entirely my opinion but, I think the 2017 model is let down a bit by it's suspension. It hasn't got enough adjustment in it for me. It only has two modes, road or dynamic. Dynamic is unusable on the road, far too hard, but works great on track. I ended up back in road at Cadwell as for me it kept becoming unsettled over the bumps in dynamic. So on the road for me, road mode is still too hard and the front has very little feeling to it. Hence the charges i'm trying at the mo.
Whereas the 2014-17 model had three modes soft, normal or hard. I found soft was near perfect on the road for my style of riding. I never got to try one on track so I can't comment on that side of things.
The way the DDC works on the 17 model is it varies the damping depending on the conditions. So a gentle throttle 30mph in 6th gear would be quite soft and compliant. Whereas nail the throttle and it will stiffen everything up because it knows it's going to be subject to higher loads.
The 14-17 model only works in set parameters in each of its modes, meaning people were finding they were having to faff about switching between modes while riding.
anyway enough of all that....
The pro's of the 17 over the earlier model to me were:
Quickshifter and blipper
Pit limiter (just because it's fun)
Launch control (same as above).
Better heated grips
Less vibey through the bars and pegs - This was often a big issue for people on the earlier model who were finding the mirrors would blur between 65-80mph in 6th gear. I've ridden some which are fine and some that were god awful.
That was the biggest change to be honest. The frame on the 17 is the 2015 onwards S1000RR frame with the electronics to match. The bars now have a rubber mount to reduce the vibes. They gave it an additional 5hp and changed the gearing which moved that vibey point up towards 90-ish which very few people cruise at. But again with the new frame and handlebars etc the vibrations aren't anywhere near as noticeable
Sorry to bore you all, just my 5p
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