L322 V8 RR - Why shouldn't I?
L322 V8 RR - Why shouldn't I?
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LivingTheDream

Original Poster:

1,765 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Its an itch I've been wanting to scratch. Prices are seriously cheap. Give me some reasons NOT to buy one please.

BMW V8 or Jag V8?

What's going to go wrong?


largespiced

189 posts

161 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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I was so tempted then watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

Decided against it and went for a Discovery (might be just as bad, but seems friendlier for the home mechanic!)

Bellini

768 posts

175 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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The Jaguar engine is considered the most reliable but a normally-aspirated V8 is a rarity, although one worth tracking down.

The Jaguar engine V8 didn't sell quite as well due to the new 3.6 TDV8 being introduced to replace the considerably poorer Td6 variant. The 4.2 Supercharged provided abundant petrol power, leaving the N/A V8 somewhat undersold.

The BMW V8 has its faults but these are well known and most should have been rectified by now, so buy on condition and history.

The excellent FFRR forum is the place to do your in-depth research.

Moycie

536 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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I believe the Jaguar engines are best to go for, in terms of reliability. From 2005 I think, when they also launched the Supercharged. I just got back into a 4.2 S/C myself. Wish I never sold my old one.

Have a watch of this video too... and also search FFRR forum (as mentioned above)

Harry's Garage - Range Rover real-world review and buyer's guide L322 TDV8

TorqueDirty

1,752 posts

243 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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largespiced said:
I was so tempted then watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

Decided against it and went for a Discovery (might be just as bad, but seems friendlier for the home mechanic!)
I watched that video too. He is monumentally smug and massively impressed with himself isn't he?

The car is probably breaking down on purpose.


TD

LivingTheDream

Original Poster:

1,765 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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TorqueDirty said:
largespiced said:
I was so tempted then watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

Decided against it and went for a Discovery (might be just as bad, but seems friendlier for the home mechanic!)
I watched that video too. He is monumentally smug and massively impressed with himself isn't he?

The car is probably breaking down on purpose.


TD
Yeah - couldn't get along with him/his style so I didn't learn a lot there but thanks anyway

Easternlight

3,841 posts

168 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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If you're any good with spanners there's one going here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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largespiced said:
I was so tempted then watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

Decided against it and went for a Discovery (might be just as bad, but seems friendlier for the home mechanic!)
Is he Kermit the frog?

OP, it’s an expensive, old, heavy car so it will cost money as they eat suspension parts and wear out. Keep a slush fund and enjoy it.

LivingTheDream

Original Poster:

1,765 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Moycie said:
I believe the Jaguar engines are best to go for, in terms of reliability. From 2005 I think, when they also launched the Supercharged. I just got back into a 4.2 S/C myself. Wish I never sold my old one.

Have a watch of this video too... and also search FFRR forum (as mentioned above)

Harry's Garage - Range Rover real-world review and buyer's guide L322 TDV8
That was a fab video - thanks. I'll be watching more of his stuff

Although it was about a TDV8 (I'm looking at petrol) it was really informative and has helped a lot - thanks

Although I think my budget my be going up - I'd better not tell the missus hehe

schmalex

13,616 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Back in 2008, I had an 2004 V8 L322.

It was sublime in every way.

It had a 100 litre petrol tank, so it was really easy to work out how much a fill up would cost. It spent a lot of time at the petrol station. A lot of time.

I eventually swapped it for a Merc CLK500 as I needed something more economical.




Moycie

536 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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LivingTheDream said:
Moycie said:
I believe the Jaguar engines are best to go for, in terms of reliability. From 2005 I think, when they also launched the Supercharged. I just got back into a 4.2 S/C myself. Wish I never sold my old one.

Have a watch of this video too... and also search FFRR forum (as mentioned above)

Harry's Garage - Range Rover real-world review and buyer's guide L322 TDV8
That was a fab video - thanks. I'll be watching more of his stuff

Although it was about a TDV8 (I'm looking at petrol) it was really informative and has helped a lot - thanks

Although I think my budget my be going up - I'd better not tell the missus hehe
Yeah, Harry's videos are great. I thought his video gave a good overview of the L322 (despite diesel focus). He's very thorough, enjoyable to watch as well. Actually uses all his supercars too.

Good luck in your search!


hashtag

1,116 posts

178 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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wormus said:
largespiced said:
I was so tempted then watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

Decided against it and went for a Discovery (might be just as bad, but seems friendlier for the home mechanic!)
Is he Kermit the frog?

OP, it’s an expensive, old, heavy car so it will cost money as they eat suspension parts and wear out. Keep a slush fund and enjoy it.
have you ever owned a L322?

Mine cost me no more to run than a "normal" car

I had a TD6 purchased with 18,000, sold at 145,000.

It was driven hard with and was chipped.

I cannot remember a suspension part needing replacing, other than a front airbag.

Drop links were replaced as needed

It did however get through 4 gearboxes, well actually 5 but one only lasted 2 miles as the dealer forgot to put any oil into it.

I would buy another without hesitation,

Jag V8, I have a 4.4 BMW V8 in another car, leaks like a proper Land rover engine. It does go well though, in a lighter car.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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hashtag said:
have you ever owned a L322?

Mine cost me no more to run than a "normal" car

I had a TD6 purchased with 18,000, sold at 145,000.

It was driven hard with and was chipped.

I cannot remember a suspension part needing replacing, other than a front airbag.

Drop links were replaced as needed

It did however get through 4 gearboxes, well actually 5 but one only lasted 2 miles as the dealer forgot to put any oil into it.

I would buy another without hesitation,

Jag V8, I have a 4.4 BMW V8 in another car, leaks like a proper Land rover engine. It does go well though, in a lighter car.
No but I’ve had 2 Discos and in my experience, they are heavy cars so heavy on tyres and brakes. Also, the disco needs lower suspension arms at 100k which isn’t expensive but the whole bill with a cam belt made me feel ill. My point is, it won’t be cheap.

schmalex

13,616 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Oh. Mine went through two gearboxes. Which is fine as LR seem to view them as consumables.


hashtag

1,116 posts

178 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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wormus said:
hashtag said:
have you ever owned a L322?

Mine cost me no more to run than a "normal" car

I had a TD6 purchased with 18,000, sold at 145,000.

It was driven hard with and was chipped.

I cannot remember a suspension part needing replacing, other than a front airbag.

Drop links were replaced as needed

It did however get through 4 gearboxes, well actually 5 but one only lasted 2 miles as the dealer forgot to put any oil into it.

I would buy another without hesitation,

Jag V8, I have a 4.4 BMW V8 in another car, leaks like a proper Land rover engine. It does go well though, in a lighter car.
No but I’ve had 2 Discos and in my experience, they are heavy so are heavy on tyres and brakes. Also, the disco needs lower suspension arms at 100k which isn’t expensive but the whole bill with a cam belt made me feel ill.
Yep 2 disco’s too.

Tyres, generally you get what you pay for, buy a proper quality, Michelin, for example any you get long life. Go cheap and buy twice.

Both disco’s I had for 120,000 +

Running an older Land Rover does need a good independent specialist to make the bitlls less painful.

I did find the L322 probably the better in all ways, including running costs

All 4x4’s of this size are heavy so will wear things quicker than a Ford Ka


tvrtuscans

1,009 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Go do it. I have a Full Fat Supercharged ‘10 MY. It’s epic.

You are correct... so much car for the money... it only has 34k on the clock and it’s mint.

scratch pervert

497 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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tvrtuscans said:
Go do it. I have a Full Fat Supercharged ‘10 MY. It’s epic.

You are correct... so much car for the money... it only has 34k on the clock and it’s mint.
I'm in the same position as the OP and considering one of these.

Yours looks great! Have you got any pics of the interior?

LivingTheDream

Original Poster:

1,765 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Thanks folks - I’m pretty decided on getting an SC now having looked at all the reviews etc. I mean, why not if I’m getting a big V8 hehe

I was thinking about MY 05 to avoid the high road tax but if a later one comes up at a good price the £200 a year difference in tax probably doesn’t matter (it’s just a psychological thing I guess)

Finances suggest June is the likely time which at least should make viewing and inspecting a bit more pleasurable.

I’ve made a 2 page list of the things I need to check for so I’m pretty ready - there’s a couple of crackers up for sale now though which is a bit irritating!!

Edited by LivingTheDream on Sunday 18th March 21:38

BigGriff540

250 posts

166 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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largespiced said:
I was so tempted then watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

Decided against it and went for a Discovery (might be just as bad, but seems friendlier for the home mechanic!)
My god that bloke is annoying!

Theoldman

3,598 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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LivingTheDream said:
Thanks folks - I’m pretty decided on getting an SC now having looked at all the reviews etc. I mean, why not if I’m getting a big V8 hehe

I was thinking about MY 05 to avoid the high road tax but if a later one comes up at a good price the £200 a year difference in tax probably doesn’t matter (it’s just a psychological thing I guess)

Finances suggest June is the likely time which at least should make viewing and inspecting a bit more pleasurable.

I’ve made a 2 page list of the things I need to check for so I’m pretty ready - there’s a couple of crackers up for sale now though which is a bit irritating!!

Edited by LivingTheDream on Sunday 18th March 21:38
GO for it!

I have had my 2107 SC for about 3 1/2 years now.
96,000 when I got it and now on 127.000miles.
Mine has LPG, so has saved me a ton of cash! smile

However there have been a few things go wrong with it.

Alternator failed, car suddenly went loopy, reporting all sorts of faults, other than not charging!
Apparently there is a failure mode that does not light the RED Battery light!

There is a small coolant leak on the LPG pipework, that the service garage won't touch, because they are not LPG trained!
So beware that! If you have an LPG garage local, no problem!

One of my rear brake pipes corroded through, both side rear replace and the fronts need doing soon!
That LR fit brake pipes that can rot is feking disgusting!!

Both rear brake callipers have been replaced, through seizing, but only relatively cheap, I did one myself!

The low coolant switch has been on for ages, so need a new header tank I suspect!

Recently I think due to freezing, the drivers door linkage broke, so I can't open it.
It is a simple short cable and apparently prone to breaking!
So open gently!
I'll do that soon as it is warming up now!

in the last week the LPG has been causing a HIGH FUEL Pressure yellow light, so need to go see my LPG man soon!
Runs OK though!
But shows 4.5 kpa on LPG and 2.5 on petrol!

My front heated seat stopped working soon after I bought it, but to be honest, I can survive that!
Heated steering wheel though is just about the best accessory!

4 year old Granddaughter loves the car!
The SC comes with the TV & DVD and being so airy she never feels car sick!


At MOT/Service in January, they gave me a long list of things that need looking at.
Rear anti roll bar bushes and body bushes, those front brake pipes and some other bits.

So by no means perfect!!

However it is IMHO the best car on the road!
Performance is superb and on LPG economic enough for me to use it almost all the time!

In the snow on the Pirelli tyres it also handled the slippery conditions as expected!
and that is on tyres that really need replacing very soon!

Will be towing a double axel caravan on Friday, don't even know it's on the back to be honest!

I had a 1990 3.9 Classic from 2000 to 2005 and loved that, the L322 is so much better!