I bought a car sight unseen for £11,000.What could go wrong?
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Chatting to a guy at work and he has lost all faith in his Jaguar XJ. 2012 car with around 125k miles and he has just had the engine blow up. The engine rebuild is around 5700 pounds which he will pay for.
He decided that was enough and he would check out WBAC. They came up with £10,850 so I offered him £11,000.
This could be a real roulette throw.......
He decided that was enough and he would check out WBAC. They came up with £10,850 so I offered him £11,000.
This could be a real roulette throw.......
Look. 'Jaguar' diesel engines aren't really Jaguar.
They were a mishmash of Ford and Peugeot, called the Lion engine I believe. Started off with the 2.7 twin turbo and are now at the 3.0 level after being heavily modified.
They're the only Jags to have timing belts, and the 2.7 had all kinds of problems with their turbos amongst other things. The 3 litre is apparently more reliable but I wouldn't trust it tbh. Unless you're doing a s
tload of miles which may counter any extra maintenance costs.
It's a shame too, because Jags petrol engines are pretty damn reliable, we've had four in the household over the years and the've been outstanding.
So my advice is this, if you want a car to do lots of miles in, don't buy an XF Diesel, or at least buy one that's been mollycoddled and take your chance.
However, if you're a 'normal' person, doing let's say, 8k a year or there abouts, then buy the petrol version. And stop being a tight ass.
They were a mishmash of Ford and Peugeot, called the Lion engine I believe. Started off with the 2.7 twin turbo and are now at the 3.0 level after being heavily modified.
They're the only Jags to have timing belts, and the 2.7 had all kinds of problems with their turbos amongst other things. The 3 litre is apparently more reliable but I wouldn't trust it tbh. Unless you're doing a s
tload of miles which may counter any extra maintenance costs.It's a shame too, because Jags petrol engines are pretty damn reliable, we've had four in the household over the years and the've been outstanding.
So my advice is this, if you want a car to do lots of miles in, don't buy an XF Diesel, or at least buy one that's been mollycoddled and take your chance.
However, if you're a 'normal' person, doing let's say, 8k a year or there abouts, then buy the petrol version. And stop being a tight ass.
V88Dicky said:
Look. 'Jaguar' diesel engines aren't really Jaguar.
They were a mishmash of Ford and Peugeot, called the Lion engine I believe. Started off with the 2.7 twin turbo and are now at the 3.0 level after being heavily modified.
They're the only Jags to have timing belts, and the 2.7 had all kinds of problems with their turbos amongst other things. The 3 litre is apparently more reliable but I wouldn't trust it tbh. Unless you're doing a stload of miles which may counter any extra maintenance costs.
It's a shame too, because Jags petrol engines are pretty damn reliable, we've had four in the household over the years and the've been outstanding.
So my advice is this, if you want a car to do lots of miles in, don't buy an XF Diesel, or at least buy one that's been mollycoddled and take your chance.
However, if you're a 'normal' person, doing let's say, 8k a year or there abouts, then buy the petrol version. And stop being a tight ass.
I wondered who made this 3 litre diesel but it is too late to worry now. I collect on Monday !They were a mishmash of Ford and Peugeot, called the Lion engine I believe. Started off with the 2.7 twin turbo and are now at the 3.0 level after being heavily modified.
They're the only Jags to have timing belts, and the 2.7 had all kinds of problems with their turbos amongst other things. The 3 litre is apparently more reliable but I wouldn't trust it tbh. Unless you're doing a s
tload of miles which may counter any extra maintenance costs.It's a shame too, because Jags petrol engines are pretty damn reliable, we've had four in the household over the years and the've been outstanding.
So my advice is this, if you want a car to do lots of miles in, don't buy an XF Diesel, or at least buy one that's been mollycoddled and take your chance.
However, if you're a 'normal' person, doing let's say, 8k a year or there abouts, then buy the petrol version. And stop being a tight ass.
As for being a tight arse on fuel I think my M4 and Boxster suggest I am not adverse to a bit of sub 25mpg. Even my Ml won't do 30mpg.
OP - hope it all works out! You might want to keep an eye on this thread in the Jaguar forum
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
V88Dicky said:
Look. 'Jaguar' diesel engines aren't really Jaguar.
They were a mishmash of Ford and Peugeot, called the Lion engine I believe. Started off with the 2.7 twin turbo and are now at the 3.0 level after being heavily modified.
They're the only Jags to have timing belts, and the 2.7 had all kinds of problems with their turbos amongst other things. The 3 litre is apparently more reliable but I wouldn't trust it tbh. Unless you're doing a stload of miles which may counter any extra maintenance costs.
It's a shame too, because Jags petrol engines are pretty damn reliable, we've had four in the household over the years and the've been outstanding.
So my advice is this, if you want a car to do lots of miles in, don't buy an XF Diesel, or at least buy one that's been mollycoddled and take your chance.
However, if you're a 'normal' person, doing let's say, 8k a year or there abouts, then buy the petrol version. And stop being a tight ass.
OP has bought an XJ rather than an XF. The 275PS 3.0D in the XJ is an awesome engine with < 6 sec to 60mph, more torque than an XKR and an easy 40mpg. Who cares if it's made in a Ford factory in Bridgend. There are many examples well into 6 figure mileages, equally there are instances of all engines from any manufacturer failing at 100-150000 miles.They were a mishmash of Ford and Peugeot, called the Lion engine I believe. Started off with the 2.7 twin turbo and are now at the 3.0 level after being heavily modified.
They're the only Jags to have timing belts, and the 2.7 had all kinds of problems with their turbos amongst other things. The 3 litre is apparently more reliable but I wouldn't trust it tbh. Unless you're doing a s
tload of miles which may counter any extra maintenance costs.It's a shame too, because Jags petrol engines are pretty damn reliable, we've had four in the household over the years and the've been outstanding.
So my advice is this, if you want a car to do lots of miles in, don't buy an XF Diesel, or at least buy one that's been mollycoddled and take your chance.
However, if you're a 'normal' person, doing let's say, 8k a year or there abouts, then buy the petrol version. And stop being a tight ass.
OP's car will be a bargain at £11k with a rebuilt engine, try finding a petrol version for less than twice that amount.
Wooda80 said:
OP has bought an XJ rather than an XF. The 275PS 3.0D in the XJ is an awesome engine with < 6 sec to 60mph, more torque than an XKR and an easy 40mpg. Who cares if it's made in a Ford factory in Bridgend. There are many examples well into 6 figure mileages, equally there are instances of all engines from any manufacturer failing at 100-150000 miles.
OP's car will be a bargain at £11k with a rebuilt engine, try finding a petrol version for less than twice that amount.
The engine was made in Dagenham.. Bridgend makes petrol engines...OP's car will be a bargain at £11k with a rebuilt engine, try finding a petrol version for less than twice that amount.
DrDeAtH said:
The engine was made in Dagenham.. Bridgend makes petrol engines...
Correct. The development was done jointly by Ford's Aachen R&D centre and the JLR Whitley centre. I was on the original development team. Contrary to what's written elsewhere, PSA had no involvement in the design apart from some packaging constraints for the transverse version.
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