Vanquish DBS values

[ianwhitewick]

I appreciate this may come across as a silly question, but...

I have been to an Aston dealership about DB9s then it progressed onto the DBS and Vanquish and the word investment was used.

Now this guy is trying to sell me a car so I don't completely believe everything he says. The DBS manual is out of my price range, but the autos are and the early new shape Vanquish 2012/2013.

Is there a website out there where you can track car values over the years. To try to put some real figures behind the investment idea?

I appreciate that historical data doesn't necessarily predict the future though!

BTW the px he offered on my Cerbera was a joke.

Thanks

[M5MarkM]

I'm not aware of such a website, but would be useful for sure!

If you really want an investment then property is the way forward.... BUT if you want to enjoy your car AND it be an investment then it is possible I think. DB9 I don't think will ever pan out just too many of them made. Likewise Vanquish, flag ship but still a lot made. Vanquish Ultimate and Vanquish S for sure should be a good investment. BUT I think the DBS is not only a great car but I do think it will be an investment for the future. Manual and Auto. It's a flagship model, a bond car (not convinced that matters much but some do) and production numbers not high. Another thing about the DBS is they just got it right, plain and simple! Out of the cars you've listed it would be the DBS for me all the way!

[Phil74891]

If I was going to buy any of those as an 'investment', I'd get a Bond coloured DBS.

The early Gaydon Vanquish's are looking like amazing value for money at the moment compared to the newer DB11 etc etc.

[Dobie177]

M5MarkM said:

I'm not aware of such a website, but would be useful for sure!

If you really want an investment then property is the way forward.... BUT if you want to enjoy your car AND it be an investment then it is possible I think. DB9 I don't think will ever pan out just too many of them made. Likewise Vanquish, flag ship but still a lot made. Vanquish Ultimate and Vanquish S for sure should be a good investment. BUT I think the DBS is not only a great car but I do think it will be an investment for the future. Manual and Auto. It's a flagship model, a bond car (not convinced that matters much but some do) and production numbers not high. Another thing about the DBS is they just got it right, plain and simple! Out of the cars you've listed it would be the DBS for me all the way!

+1 (says me with a DBS)

[AMDBSVNick]

M5MarkM said:

Vanquish Ultimate and Vanquish S for sure should be a good investment. BUT I think the DBS is not only a great car but I do think it will be an investment for the future. Manual and Auto. It's a flagship model, a bond car (not convinced that matters much but some do) and production numbers not high. Another thing about the DBS is they just got it right, plain and simple! Out of the cars you've listed it would be the DBS for me all the way!

Totally agree with this although I suspect Vanquish S still has a some way to go backwards before going forwards. I had the option of an Ultimate and likewise felt it may take a decent hit before going in the right direction so I passed. We will see in the not too distant future on the latter.

[anonymous-user]

I thought dbs prices had fallen last year? Not saying its not the best choice (I have no knowledge about cars as investments).

[9153mark]

M5MarkM said:

I'm not aware of such a website, but would be useful for sure!

If you really want an investment then property is the way forward.... BUT if you want to enjoy your car AND it be an investment then it is possible I think. DB9 I don't think will ever pan out just too many of them made. Likewise Vanquish, flag ship but still a lot made. Vanquish Ultimate and Vanquish S for sure should be a good investment. BUT I think the DBS is not only a great car but I do think it will be an investment for the future. Manual and Auto. It's a flagship model, a bond car (not convinced that matters much but some do) and production numbers not high. Another thing about the DBS is they just got it right, plain and simple! Out of the cars you've listed it would be the DBS for me all the way!

And me with a Quantum dbs

[9153mark]

soofsayer said:

I thought dbs prices had fallen last year? Not saying its not the best choice (I have no knowledge about cars as investments).

They rose dramatically through the Spring with some dealers slapping £140K on any dbs with a gear knob
Settled back a bit but the seasonal surge is due
Agree with above post from Mark thought. AM got it just right
And the Bond effect just adds to it
And even if you dont make ££££, not a bad way to enjoy life

[ianwhitewick]

Thanks guys.

The priority is to buy a nice car and secondly not to lose too much value in the process. I'm also pushing by budget hard so need to justify it!

I was told they have over produced the DB11 and that is pushing the 2012/2013 Vanquish price down for the moment. I think the Vanquish will drop a bit further but eventually will rise back up. The previous generation is starting to overtake them in price now.

[PantsFire]

I've not even gotten hold of my 2013 Vanquish but after the 812 Superfast and possibly the next Aventador V12 Naturally Aspirated engines are done. I think every good example will appreciate over time as we move toward an all-electric future.

[AMTony]

Thought a nice photo would help demonstrate how gorgeous Quantum DBS are

[Dobie177]

AMTony said:

Thought a nice photo would help demonstrate how gorgeous Quantum DBS are

I echo that...

[LooneyTunes]

ianwhitewick said:

I was told they have over produced the DB11

When in a dealer a month or so back, chap was telling prospective customer that there were deals to be done on dealer stock DB11s so I suspect there may indeed be a surplus.

M5MarkM said:

If you really want an investment then property is the way forward.... BUT if you want to enjoy your car AND it be an investment then it is possible I think. DB9 I don't think will ever pan out just too many of them made. Likewise Vanquish, flag ship but still a lot made. Vanquish Ultimate and Vanquish S for sure should be a good investment. BUT I think the DBS is not only a great car but I do think it will be an investment for the future. Manual and Auto. It's a flagship model, a bond car (not convinced that matters much but some do) and production numbers not high. Another thing about the DBS is they just got it right, plain and simple! Out of the cars you've listed it would be the DBS for me all the way!

I think Mark has it nailed. My thinking was the same but ended up going down the VS route when the "right" car was available: may yet look at DBS again as it would be good to have a manual Aston in the future.

OP: With the way Cerb values are going, if you're in a position where you can run both then apply some man maths. Choosing between V12 and AJP, and the very different character of Aston and Cerb, would be a nice first world problem to have.

[hornbaek]

Buy the car you like and worry about residuals when you come to sell it. The whole discussion of "the last one" etc is nonsense. We are at the end of an era (together with a long period of low interest rates) and the next generation is not going to want a petrol guzzling car - fact.

[AMDBSVNick]

hornbaek said:

Buy the car you like and worry about residuals when you come to sell it. The whole discussion of "the last one" etc is nonsense. We are at the end of an era (together with a long period of low interest rates) and the next generation is not going to want a petrol guzzling car - fact.

I totally agree with this too.

[AdamV12AMR]

AMDBSVNick said:

hornbaek said:

Buy the car you like and worry about residuals when you come to sell it. The whole discussion of "the last one" etc is nonsense. We are at the end of an era (together with a long period of low interest rates) and the next generation is not going to want a petrol guzzling car - fact.

I totally agree with this too.

I think it depends on how you define 'generation'.

The reason why some of the most appreciating cars (F40 / 959 / XJ220 / V600) of the last 5-10 years are from the late 80s and early 90's is that there is now a cohort of people in their 30s and 40s who grew up with these cars on their bedroom walls and now find themselves in the enviable position of being able to indulge themselves, now they've 'made it'. I won't remind you of Countach values, Nick

If you look at the scale and passion on the YouTube / Vlogger scene around high performance cars, there's undeniably a huge group of young (predominantly) men around the world who idolise these cars to the point of hanging around Knightsbridge all weekend long in the hope of seeing an LeFerrari, 918, Aventador etc etc. These people will strive to have cars like these in their own garage one day so, I believe, for a select group of brands and models, there will remain demand and, therefore, value.

Whether this applies to the more 'old school' cars, with large capacity nat-asp engines and manual gearboxes, I'm not so sure. These kids will likely favour the lightning quick shifts of a great dual-clutch box and the incessant acceleration of a forced induction or electronically assisted powertrain.

If your definition of generation is my kids (1 & 2 years old), then I agree, They will have no affinity with 'the thrill of driving' and by the time they have the means to buy their own 'nice' car (let's call it 2040) our roads, comms and fuelling infrastructure will bear little resemblance to what we see today. Even if a hydrocarbon-fuelled non-autonomous vehicle is technically road-legal, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find somewhere to enjoy it.

[AMDBSVNick]

AdamV12AMR said:

I won't remind you of Countach values, Nick

[JaseB]

There is market trend data on getpatina.com, definitely worth a look, there is 4 years worth of data available.

Edited by JaseB on Saturday 24th March 11:22

[DB9VolanteDriver]

ianwhitewick said:

Is there a website out there where you can track car values over the years. To try to put some real figures behind the investment idea?

I appreciate that historical data doesn't necessarily predict the future though!

Thanks

There's this, but it is US based...

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/search...

[DBSNOOR]

This is also puzzling me. Cant understand how a newer and 'better' vanquish be priced below a DBS with the same miles. Can't just be the Bond effect surely?