Helmet Cameras

[Cbull]

With the amount of mileage I do on the bike it's inevitable that I come across plenty of idiots so I've been contemplating investing in a helmet cam. Unfortunately I'm fully aware of them making me look more of a tit than I already am, therefor something a small, practical and cheap is what I'm looking for.

The Sena PT10 seems to tick them boxes. Is there another camera that should be considered or is that one about as good as it's going to get for the price? Personally I don't really want something as bulky as a Go Pro hanging off the helmet.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01DUBLXD8/?coliid=I1B...

[black-k1]

What would concern me is, if pulled over for something like speeding, the camera can be seized and the footage used as evidence. Now, I don't think I ride in a way that is particularly bad but I do "make progress" and I do use some of the "normal commuting tricks". A normal commute would likely have enough "evidence" to support a significant number of points. (speeding, crossing the stop line at the front of a queue at the red lights, use of the "puff" box etc.) Given the police's apparent preference for going after "easy crimes" ... they won't come any easier!!!

Perhaps I'm just paranoid!



Although, that doesn't meant they're no out to get me!

[terry tibbs]

https://www.innovv.com/

then again right speed, right gear, right road position - what's there to worry about proving it

[bogie]

As above - you better do your advanced training and test, and ride perfectly within the law all the time. In the event of any accident or offence involving the Police, the first thing they take these days is the camera and phone. Camera footage reviewed and phone records checked.

So long as you accept that any surveillance you do on others, also gives up your own privacy, thats fine ....a bit like when you click accept to the t&c on social media sites - everything you do from then on belongs to them, not you.....

[CAPP0]

anonymous said:

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The holy grail, which I would also consider. I think one of the Innovs is a possibility here, is it the K1?

[Cbull]

Not come across the Innovvs, will look into them thanks. They seem to be the one to look at if being discreet BUT I'm not sure exactly where they'd go on the bike (2001 ZX6R) and also be discreet.

Originally I was thinking if something does happen and you've been a bit of a dck then it's just be a case of taking out the memory card and claiming its not currently working, or after the incident selectively send the footage required.

[CAPP0]

Cbull said:

I'm not sure exactly where they'd go on the bike (2001 ZX6R) and also be discreet.

Front one would be screwed up into the underside of the nose fairing under the headlight, completely out of the way. Rear - probably by the number plate somewhere?

[Jazoli]

Cbull said:

Originally I was thinking if something does happen and you've been a bit of a dick then it's just be a case of taking out the memory card and claiming its not currently working, or after the incident selectively send the footage required.

How are you going to do this when stood by the roadside with a police officer or in the back of his car? you aren't, if he/she is after a conviction and spots the camera they will seize it there and then and you won't be able to remove anything.

I used to run with a camera on the bike, after reviewing some of the rides we (the NW lot) had I realised that although we had been perfectly safe and not put any other member of the public at risk we all could have ended up in serious trouble had the police got hold of any footage, the only time I use one now is when I'm out with a mate who is a new rider and slower than pretty much everything, just to show him how crap he is

[gavgavgav]

Cbull said:

Not come across the Innovvs, will look into them thanks. They seem to be the one to look at if being discreet BUT I'm not sure exactly where they'd go on the bike (2001 ZX6R) and also be discreet.

Originally I was thinking if something does happen and you've been a bit of a dck then it's just be a case of taking out the memory card and claiming its not currently working, or after the incident selectively send the footage required.

Thread about innov. The C5 I have is still going well. I have it on a bracket off the right wing mirror mount, means it can be removed without any modifications.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[Richyboy]

Sena make a helmet with a camera fitted to the top now.

[jak100]

I have a Drift Ghost-s. I use it all the time, to many di**heads out there ready to take you off and put the blame on you.
Was going to get a gopro but it looks like a fridge stuck on top of your helmet.

[Bob_Defly]

I also use a Drift, mainly for anything that might happen so that I have any evidence that it wasn't my fault.

If I'm not doing anything illegal like crossing double lines to overtake, then I can't really see what I would be worried about. You can't see the speedo. (insert swimwear joke here)

Apart from doing the odd blog, I have captured some pretty poor driving, where I've had to take evasive action. So I just have it for my own safety.

[YouWhat]

Bob_Defly said:

Apart from doing the odd blog, I have captured some pretty poor driving, where I've had to take evasive action. So I just have it for my own safety.

Having a camera doesn't help your own safety, only your riding can do that.

[Bob_Defly]

YouWhat said:

Bob_Defly said:

Apart from doing the odd blog, I have captured some pretty poor driving, where I've had to take evasive action. So I just have it for my own safety.

Having a camera doesn't help your own safety, only your riding can do that.

I suppose I mean my own protection. I.e. The police and others assuming the biker is always in the wrong.

But also I tend to ride more sensibly when it's recording.

[RemaL]

terry tibbs said:

https://www.innovv.com/

then again right speed, right gear, right road position - what's there to worry about proving it

I fitted the C5 to my bike last weekend but not had the time to ride and try out. Bought after looking for a god bike dash cam type of thing. To fit and forget. And at least the Memory card is small so in the event of anything incriminating I can eat it. With my digestion it will be toast lol

[Biker 1]

I'd be more interested in the software: do you have an option of recording, say, only 2 minute loops, with continuous overwrite, which can be stopped at any time, a bit like a car dashcam? This way, all the previous stuff won't be available to plod or anyone else...

[PIGINAWIG]

Nextbase do a good one. Records in 3 minute intervals and holds 4 hours at 1080.re-writes over after 4 hours so you’re a bit knackered if you’ve been too enthusiastic

I got one today and will fit on Saturday . It’s bike specific with pretty good mounting system

[Birky_41]

PIGINAWIG said:

Nextbase do a good one. Records in 3 minute intervals and holds 4 hours at 1080.re-writes over after 4 hours so you’re a bit knackered if you’ve been too enthusiastic

I got one today and will fit on Saturday . It’s bike specific with pretty good mounting system

Let me know what this is like with wind noise at speed. I'm looking for something that can do road rides, track etc and fed up with both my current ones sounding like a load of wind noise and not much else

[mckeann]

Just always carry a hammer with you and be prepared to "edit" the footage accordingly in an emergency. #HammerTime

[CoolHands]

Fitted to the bike vibration normally destroys the picture and makes it pretty unusable.