Wheel & tyre storage
Discussion
My wife has evicted my winter wheels and tyres from the shed so they're now taking up precious space in the garage, sitting on the floor stacked up on top of one another. The trouble is that they partially block a set of shelves so have to be moved to gain access to some of those shelves. I have seen "tyre trees", some of which have small wheels so they can be moved around relatively easily but I've yet to find one which will take tyres as wide as 285 and mounted on 20" wheels. Anyone know where I could buy such a thing?
Alternatively I did think about some sort of wall-mounted storage for them. The garage walls are concrete blocks, the tyres and wheels are fairly heavy being quite large but I can't say exactly how heavy without weighing them but is there any sort of wall rack available that could take wheel/tyre combinations of that sort of size?
Alternatively I did think about some sort of wall-mounted storage for them. The garage walls are concrete blocks, the tyres and wheels are fairly heavy being quite large but I can't say exactly how heavy without weighing them but is there any sort of wall rack available that could take wheel/tyre combinations of that sort of size?
8bit said:
Alternatively I did think about some sort of wall-mounted storage for them. The garage walls are concrete blocks, the tyres and wheels are fairly heavy being quite large but I can't say exactly how heavy without weighing them but is there any sort of wall rack available that could take wheel/tyre combinations of that sort of size?
Roughly how heavy? 15kg each? So four is 60kg. That's not really THAT heavy in the grand scheme of "things that get attached to concrete block walls". A solid shelf with a couple of decent wall fixings each end... Job jobbed.Mercky said:
Just put them back in the shed man!
I’m on my second blockwork garage with this mounted on the wall: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...Does the job perfectly. I didn’t use normal plugs to mount it, or the crappy bolts it came with, but 6 x proper sleeve anchors instead. Never moved an inch off the wall in either garage.
eltax91 said:
I’m on my second blockwork garage with this mounted on the wall: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Does the job perfectly. I didn’t use normal plugs to mount it, or the crappy bolts it came with, but 6 x proper sleeve anchors instead. Never moved an inch off the wall in either garage.
Looks perfect!Does the job perfectly. I didn’t use normal plugs to mount it, or the crappy bolts it came with, but 6 x proper sleeve anchors instead. Never moved an inch off the wall in either garage.
What size wheels can you fit on that? Does it sag in the middle?
Why aren’t the ends triangular?!
FWIW said:
eltax91 said:
I’m on my second blockwork garage with this mounted on the wall: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Does the job perfectly. I didn’t use normal plugs to mount it, or the crappy bolts it came with, but 6 x proper sleeve anchors instead. Never moved an inch off the wall in either garage.
Looks perfect!Does the job perfectly. I didn’t use normal plugs to mount it, or the crappy bolts it came with, but 6 x proper sleeve anchors instead. Never moved an inch off the wall in either garage.
What size wheels can you fit on that? Does it sag in the middle?
Why aren’t the ends triangular?!
The wall bracket comes in 2 pieces so you could position them further apart if you wanted by I suspect this would compromise the strength somewhat
As for triangular ends, no idea!
I have a very similar thing mounted on my garage wall and it takes the 20" Range Rover wheels with no problem - apart from the physical effort required to lift them up there. One thing, either mount it so that it's low enough to be seen or high enough so that you won't bash your head on it (and maybe paint the corners with glow-in-the-dark paint).
VOE!
VOE!
Cold said:
I have a very similar thing mounted on my garage wall and it takes the 20" Range Rover wheels with no problem - apart from the physical effort required to lift them up there. One thing, either mount it so that it's low enough to be seen or high enough so that you won't bash your head on it (and maybe paint the corners with glow-in-the-dark paint).
VOE!
I have the perfect solution for you, at 6’2” it can’t go high enough to avoid the odd head whallop, so my end pieces are shrouded in plumbing style pipe lagging. Lovely and soft and I’ve only the half dozen or so scar’s on my head before I got around to sorting itVOE!
Thanks folks. I'm not sure that sort of wall mounting will work due to the dimensions of the garage, could maybe mount them flat to the wall on individual posts through the center hub holes perhaps though but again never used any of these things so not sure which are quality products and which are not.
Sadly not, just more gardening stuff she'll never use and outdoor toys the kids will seldom play with...
TooMany2cvs said:
Roughly how heavy? 15kg each? So four is 60kg. That's not really THAT heavy in the grand scheme of "things that get attached to concrete block walls". A solid shelf with a couple of decent wall fixings each end... Job jobbed.
Not sure, 4x 20" wheels (255 fronts and 285 rears) with fitted tyres, as for what a concrete block wall can take I've no idea, I've never fitted anything that heavy to one yet, hence the question...Plate spinner said:
Mercky said:
Just put them back in the shed man!
My guess is it’s become a ‘summer house’ How about securing some heavy stud bolts (one per wheel) into the wall protrude far enough out allow you to hang a wheel on through a regular wheel bolt hole, then spin a nut on the end to stop it coming off.
Attach something soft to the wall so you can place the wheels on the bolt with the fancy side towards the wall without damaging them.
Admittedly not too pretty as you only see in the inside of the wheel, but very little leverage being applied to the bolts in this way so should be absolutely fine.
And then each obstruction is only as deep as the wheel (285mm)
Attach something soft to the wall so you can place the wheels on the bolt with the fancy side towards the wall without damaging them.
Admittedly not too pretty as you only see in the inside of the wheel, but very little leverage being applied to the bolts in this way so should be absolutely fine.
And then each obstruction is only as deep as the wheel (285mm)
TooMany2cvs said:
8bit said:
Alternatively I did think about some sort of wall-mounted storage for them. The garage walls are concrete blocks, the tyres and wheels are fairly heavy being quite large but I can't say exactly how heavy without weighing them but is there any sort of wall rack available that could take wheel/tyre combinations of that sort of size?
Roughly how heavy? 15kg each? So four is 60kg. That's not really THAT heavy in the grand scheme of "things that get attached to concrete block walls". A solid shelf with a couple of decent wall fixings each end... Job jobbed.I used some sheets of ply and went to town screwing them to the wall, making sure I got the timber behind the plasterboard as well. Then some 50mm ali angle was made into 4 L shaped frames and this was screwed to the wall and boarding. Some tubing was used to join across the L frames and flat bar used as braces of the L shapes frames.
Initial load test was myself hanging off the frame for a few mins, I'm 60kgs so not the 1.5x load test I'm used to at work. Then I put the wheels up and kept the car out of the garage for 3 days. Just incase. After that I guessed my engineering was sound enough.
There was frames I saw on the internet which was for this purpose, but the price was a bit too much for my fiscal prudence.
eltax91 said:
I’m on my second blockwork garage with this mounted on the wall: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Does the job perfectly. I didn’t use normal plugs to mount it, or the crappy bolts it came with, but 6 x proper sleeve anchors instead. Never moved an inch off the wall in either garage.
That looks good!Does the job perfectly. I didn’t use normal plugs to mount it, or the crappy bolts it came with, but 6 x proper sleeve anchors instead. Never moved an inch off the wall in either garage.
Now on my (long) list of accessories to buy this summer!
sjj84 said:
What about cutting a circle of wood the size of the wheel and attaching small castor wheels to it. Then just stack your wheels on top, no need for fancy and no doubt expensive wheel trees.
There is some opinion that wheels shouldn't be stored 'stacked' on each other, the weight on the bottom wheel might damage the tyre, and the tree's aren't exactly wallet busting, not sure if this is big enough for the tyre sizes quoted by the OP, but they do have a 295 size static model. 
https://www.manomano.co.uk/mechanic-tools/mobile-t...
Edited by raceboy on Tuesday 3rd April 10:28
raceboy said:
There is some opinion that wheels shouldn't do stored 'stacked' on each other, the weight on the bottom wheel might damage the tyre
Sounds like codswallop to me.Let's say that the tyres are sidewall-marked as 60psi max pressure, and they're 15kg each - so 60kg for the stack, 130lb. That full weight is only acting on the lowest sidewall - and even then is only equivalent to that maximum air pressure's force acting on 2 square inches - 13cm2. There's 3/4 of that weight on next junction up, the upper sidewall of the bottom tyre and the lower sidewall of the second tyre up. 1/2 that on the upper of the second, lower of the third. 1/4 on the upper of the third, lower of the top. That bottom sidewall won't even start to deflect slightly from the weight even at a normal air pressure of, say, 30psi.
And that's before we even consider the forces placed on the sidewalls by having the weight of the car on them... let alone driven round a corner quickly.
Nah, the people telling you "oooh, that'll damage your tyres" are trying to sell you something...
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