RE: Subaru Forester (SG): PH Used Buying Guide
RE: Subaru Forester (SG): PH Used Buying Guide
Thursday 29th March 2018

Subaru Forester (SG): PH Used Buying Guide

Looking for that elusive automotive Swiss Army knife? A Subaru Forester could be just the ticket



If you want a car that can tackle muddy trails, bound through snow-covered lanes and carry the dog with ease, you've plenty of options. When you start looking for a car with those capabilities that's also characterful, gratifying to drive and reliable, however, your shortlist will become exponentially shorter.

There is one potential candidate that can fulfil many those requirements though - the Subaru Forester. The first-generation Forester, dubbed the SF, was launched in 1997. It proved a dependable, comfortable and pleasant car to drive; in turbocharged form, known as S-Turbo for UK models, it was also surprisingly quick.


SF-gen Foresters are few and far between these days, and their drab looks cause many to steer clear. The sharper second-generation SG version of the Forester, however, is a much more appealing option. It arrived on UK shores in 2002, featuring a new platform and a whole host of upgrades, and was offered up until 2008. There was also a mild facelift in 2006, which entailed new lights, a redesigned grille, redesigned bumpers and different sill panels.

A wide range of UK variants were offered, from the naturally aspirated 2.0-litre X to the turbocharged 2.5-litre XTEn. All used Subaru's endearing low-slung boxer engine, coupled to either a five-speed manual or a four-speed automatic, depending on version - and, in all cases, power was sent to all four wheels.

It's the turbocharged 2.0-litre and 2.5-litre models that rightly draw the most attention, though, delivering suitably swift performance. These also benefit from extensive aftermarket support - as does the Forester platform itself - so are ideal candidates for further tuning.


Foresters have myriad foibles ranging from the minor to the major. You may see a turbocharged 2.0XT for sale for £1,500 and, at a glance, it might appear a good going concern. That same car, however, could very quickly land you with a £1,500 bill. Spend around £2,500 on one - or much more on a desirable facelifted 2.5 - on the other hand, and you could well get a dependable car that'll tick all the right boxes for years to come.

While this buying guide focuses primarily on the SG, many of the details here also apply to the preceding SF generation - as well as imported high-performance STi variants of the SG.

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Bodywork and interior

The Forester's exterior panels are about as resilient to damage as a sheet of tinfoil. Consequently, have a good look along its flanks for damage, including pin dents caused by the corner of casually flung doors in car parks. These can be fixed, but it's worth clocking them first so you can account for the potential cost of repairs.

Rust, however, is the real nemesis of Subarus of this era. It creeps into the front and rear subframes, and areas regularly exposed to mud and moisture, and can quickly take hold. Besides looking at the MOT history for evidence of past corrosion-related issues, look carefully at the ends of the sills, the strut top mounts and the visible elements of the front and rear structure.

Fortunately, inside, Foresters are resilient to wear and tear. Just check that everything works, including the dash illumination if possible - and, if a sunroof is fitted, make sure there's no sign of water getting in.

Wind noise is a common problem due to the frameless design of the doors. You can replace the seals, but often simply padding them out to provide a tighter fit to the glass will quieten them down considerably.

One other common issue is a failure of the rear wiper. Moisture seeps into the spindle and causes corrosion, which jams the mechanism. You can get a usable assembly from a breakers for around £35, however, and cobble together a perfectly functioning set-up. It's not tricky to replace, either, but you will need a small puller to do the job.

The plastic headlight lenses are also prone to going hazy. These can easily be cleared up with a £20 restoration kit.


Engine and transmission

Foresters, if properly maintained, are reliable machines. Try and find an example that has been owned by someone who understands the car - an owner that takes time to warm it up and cool it off, doesn't boost it hard from cold and uses top-quality fluids and filters.

Servicing and regular fluid checks are essential to ensure the lifespan of the boxer engine, even more so in turbocharged form. The cambelt should be changed every 50,000 miles or five years and it's worth doing the tensioners and water pump at the same time. Kits cost around £180, excluding the £40 water pump. A garage will usually charge around £400 all in.

Generally, both 2.0 and 2.5 flavours of the Forester are regarded as being durable - although the 2.5 can be more prone to problems when tuned. In any case check for signs of leaks or cross-contamination of oil and coolant. Higher mileage examples may exhibit some piston slap when cold; as long as it fades when the engine is up to temperature, it shouldn't prove a problem.

Manual transmissions are usually durable but you may find some unwilling to shift gears when cold, particularly if you're trying to change down into first when approaching junctions. This is sometimes due to the wrong grade of oil in the transmission. Refilling it with a blend of Motul Gear 300 and Red Line Lightweight Shockproof can reinstate a silky-smooth shift.

A leak from the rear diff may not be from a seal but the differential cover itself, as they are prone to cracking if the fill or drain plugs are done up too tight. Liquid metal or similar may be just enough to seal the crack.


Suspension and steering

Check to make sure that the Subaru sits level. Turbocharged Foresters have self-levelling rear suspension which, over time, ceases to function - resulting in a sad-looking sagging tail. Original replacements are expensive so the best solution is to opt for aftermarket conventional damper and spring assemblies. These can be had for around £350 but you'll typically have to budget for replacement rear strut bolts, too, a complete set of which will cost some £40.

Anti-roll bar bushes and drop links can wear, resulting in odd creaks and rattles; neither is difficult to replace and spare parts are inexpensive. Similarly, wheel bearings and CV joint boots are common issues. Listen to any grumbles while driving, indicating a bearing issue, and visually inspect the rubber CV boots to make sure they're not torn or split.

Countless upgrades are available should you wish to improve the cornering capabilities of a Forester. Front and rear Whiteline heavy-duty anti-roll bars, for example, can be had for around £400.


Wheels, tyres and brakes

You've little to worry about on the tyre front. Models with the stock 17-inch wheel, for example, use a common 215/55 tyre. A premium tyre will cost around £110 but less expensive alternatives are available.

Some may find that the Forester's brake pedal is numb and initially unresponsive. This is caused by the bulkhead flexing, which is an inherent trait. Aftermarket master cylinder stoppers can reduce this flex and provide improved pedal feel.

Braking components are easy to come by and inexpensive. Expect to pay around £50 a disc, from a known brand, and around £50 for a complete set of pads.

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SPECIFICATION - Subaru Forester SG 2.0/2.0 Turbo/2.5 Turbo

Engine: 1,994/1,994/2,457cc four-cylinder boxer
Transmission: 5-speed manual/4-speed automatic
Power (hp): 123/174/208-226@5,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 137/181/236@3,600/3,200/3,600rpm
MPG: 33/29/26
CO2: 204/232/261g/km
Price new: £16,680/£20,835/£24,535
Price now: £2,000 upwards

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Arese1973

Original Poster:

52 posts

115 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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My SG turbo was in SOW a few years back with a knackered auto box, this was fixed and it has proved perfectly dependable since. 2.5's are allegedly more problematic than 2.0's.

Turbobanana

8,347 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Quite like these, and every autumn I think about buying one for winter only to have such a piffling amount of snow as to make it pointless.

Genuine question: the lead image shows it wading some reasonably deep water - how well do they cope with this, what with all their important bits quite low down? (Thinking plugs, etc).

rtz62

3,785 posts

184 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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I bought an SF model Turbo-S from its first owner, a school secretary, for under £600.
It had done 120k and it’s service and MOT history was impeccable, in fact the thr only blemish was a re-painted rear bumper which didn’t quite match (silver isn’t always the easiest to be fair).
The thing ran without fault over that winter and my only expenditure other than fuel was a set of winter tyres which got me everywhere in the snow and ice we had that year.
I loved it and would have another in a flash if I needed a cheap, all-weather bolide.

Ryvita

732 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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No mention here [Edit - yes there is. My bad.] of the existence of the import-only Forester STI. I know it's not the focus of the article, but if you read this and want these fundamentals, but with a dollop more of the power and performance, the STI is your answer. smile

Or if you don't like the idea of imports there are a few XTEN Prodrives which are a half-way house between the XTEN and the STI in terms of power. Only the STI has a six speed box though.

Edited by Ryvita on Thursday 29th March 09:29

mudnomad

4,033 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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One of my favorite cars! They handle so well and are so fun to drive.

Lewis Kingston

241 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Turbobanana said:
Genuine question: the lead image shows it wading some reasonably deep water - how well do they cope with this, what with all their important bits quite low down? (Thinking plugs, etc).
I once drove mine through a deep enough river that the bow wave initially surged up to the IC scoop... fortunately, it kept on ticking! Did have my heart in my mouth for a moment, though.

Otherwise, though, I think they're happy wading through that kind of depth provided you keep them moving – but I must stress I've not done it that often, so others may provide a better steer. They have a substantial plastic undertray that presumably keeps enough water away from the key components if you keep it moving, mind, and it didn't otherwise seem phased.

At least the turbocharger's up relatively high; you'd be in pretty serious trouble if that was surrounded by water. biggrin

Edited by Lewis Kingston on Thursday 29th March 10:38

Lewis Kingston

241 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Ryvita said:
Or if you don't like the idea of imports there are a few XTEN Prodrives which are a half-way house between the XTEN and the STI in terms of power. Only the STI has a six speed box though.
Yea! I like the Cross Sports imports that seem to be popping up a lot nowadays, too; more aggressive STi looks but with the 2.0 instead of the 2.5. Strikes me as a good happy medium for many. smile

I'd like to upgrade to one at some point but I think my XT's gonna keep me happy for a long while yet.

Snoggledog

9,258 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Tsk tsk PH. No mention that the lowly 2.0x comes with a low range gearbox?

PomBstard

7,873 posts

271 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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We had an 07 Forester from new and kept it for just under 10 years. Only items to go wrong in that time were the AC system and, er, I think thats it. Oh, both number plate bulbs went. Regular maintenance meant nothing other than consumables. Belt change at 8 years was pricey, but included all the pulleys and pump. Tyres lasted around 20-30,000km depending on brand. Rear wheel bearings lasted around 60,000km. Ours had a hard urban-based life.

Ours had the NA 2.5 litre engine, not sure you got that in the UK. Usefully torquey with about 170bhp, and easy going with the 5-sp manual, averaged around 28mpg for the urban run, and up to about 35 on the motorway. Not sparkling nubers, but consistent on 91RON, and nothing went wrong.

But the idea of one of these as a Swiss Army type is about right. Its perfect for the urban jungle and more than capable on a B or A road. Not too wide, but big enough for four, five adults at a squeeze, yet easy to place and flick around. Ours had 205/60R16 wheels, so ride was great compared to others marketed for the city. Permanent AWD in a hilly place where the rain comes in torrential buckets is useful. Used it on several family road trips of 2000+km with no problems.

So why sell it? Well, boredom and the fact it was starting to look scruffy. It has done well to handle three young kids in those ten years - we bought it just before our first was born - and whilst everything still works and was rattle-free, there were numerous scratches and dings all over the place. Would have happily bought a new one, and XT this time, but they're auto-only and that doesn't work for us.

Bloke who bought it was running an 03 Forester with the same engine, that was on 425,000km and still going. He was doing about 200km a day commuting and reckoned the Forester was the best and most-reliable tool for his money. I got about 30% of the purchase price back when I sold it at 10 years and 100,000km.

pti

1,856 posts

173 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Brilliant. They're on my shortlist and you've woken people up to them, again!


PomBstard

7,873 posts

271 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Snoggledog said:
Tsk tsk PH. No mention that the lowly 2.0x comes with a low range gearbox?
And the NA 2.5 comes with the same. Amusingly, if you let your 2 year old son play in the front seat, he might move the lever from high to not-quite-low, leaving the car in a neutral you didn’t know you had. This may cause you to think there is a serious problem, possibly gearbox or clutch related. You will see the funny side though, when you get a third or fourth opinion from the friendly mechanic who lives down the road who promptly moves said lever to the usual high position and asks what all the fuss is about... biggrin

richinlondon

885 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Not had one of these but had an 07 outback which I always thought was poor quality. All sorts of engine lights came on at 90000, sold it and saw on mot history it has clearly broken in the last year. Replaced with Volvo which is much much better quality.

cullenster

60 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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I owned a 2003 XT 2.0. The most fun car I ever had, but the Lambda sensor failed, causing a MOT failure and an expensive bill to fix. That aside, loved the driving, loved the extra long sunroof, loved the seating position and the power of the engine was very enjoyable.

Watchman

6,391 posts

274 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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I always wondered why these were never offered with the Legacy’s flat-6. I think it would have suited the character of the car well, particularly as it had a service-free cam chain and developed 240+bhp in one of the earlier iterations.

I would have bought one.

I also used to wonder why Subaru never developed a flat-6 diesel for these although now I can see that would have been a waste of time.

SlowV6

720 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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I am thinking Forester as a replacement for our old C-Max when it dies (please die),

This one is my favourite at the moment. A 2.5 turbo with a stated 256BHP, an output not mentioned in the buyers guide. Looks a lovely car for £3k before haggle and I guess people perhaps aren't queuing up to buy these?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



Snails

916 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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SlowV6 said:
I am thinking Forester as a replacement for our old C-Max when it dies (please die),

This one is my favourite at the moment. A 2.5 turbo with a stated 256BHP, an output not mentioned in the buyers guide. Looks a lovely car for £3k before haggle and I guess people perhaps aren't queuing up to buy these?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I think those with 256hp are those with the Prodrive Performance Pack (PPP)

TEKNOPUG

20,467 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Seems a glaring ommission not to mention that they are 95% Impreza with a different body.

BarcelonaLewis

159 posts

165 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Has anyone experienced this second gen forester and the later models from 2009 on? We've an MY2006 2l non turbo, which is fantastic, and I'm curious if the same properties have been retained in later models - particularly the handling.

Ryvita

732 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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With regard to the wading depth:



The standard Subaru airbox system, as found on all this generation of Impreza, Forester and Legacy is as follows. At the front edge of the bonnet, just above the grill there is a plastic air intake/ducting, which routes clean cold air from the front. This is directed into the left side wing. Inside the wing is a large plastic resonator box which stands almost full height within the wing, in front of the wheel well. From this resonator there is a feed into the bottom of the airbox on the left side of the engine. From there, via the filter element, into the engine.

As such, in theory, the engine should be ok up until water comes up over the bonnet. There are some drain holes in the resonator box though so it may not be a leak tight system, and it would be a brave person that waded much more than a few feet of water.

Note that it's a common mod to remove the resonator and turn the wing into a ghetto "cold air feed" by sealing the air box to the hole into the wing. It increases induction noise noticeably and is reputed to offer a cleaner / larger air path resulting in possible power gains (your results my vary on that one...)

Edited by Ryvita on Thursday 29th March 13:10

Ryvita

732 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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BarcelonaLewis said:
Has anyone experienced this second gen forester and the later models from 2009 on? We've an MY2006 2l non turbo, which is fantastic, and I'm curious if the same properties have been retained in later models - particularly the handling.
I have had a 56 plate SG STI and currently have a 13 plate XT.

It's softer, higher, wider. It's much more comfortable but has lost a certain amount of the edge. The XT shifts pretty well, though the CVT gearbox takes some getting used to, but when I was test driving I found the lower spec models with the non-turbo 2.0 to be unbearably sluggish. Suggest you try driving one, they are nice but a slightly different proposition.