New Bonneville T100 with poor frame alignment
Discussion
I picked up a brand new Bonneville T100 last Friday (23/3) and when I came to wash it I noticed that the seat sub-frame tubes were not welded in the same place as each other. It occurred to me that the error may originate somewhere else in the frame and as the result of cumulative error, this being the end of the tube if you like, displays a greater misalignment. Have a look, let me know what you think...
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CaptainSlow said:
Pothole said:
CaptainSlow said:
They build these in India so hopefully not an indication of reduced build quality.
No. They don't.OP, if this is, indeed a new bike, take it back to the dealer and ask their opinion.
Pothole said:
Most other models also largely built in Thailand and yet the internet isn't awash with quality issues.
OP, if this is, indeed a new bike, take it back to the dealer and ask their opinion.
It's due in tomorrow so they can open a case and take their own photographs. I'll have a communication for Triumph prepared for them to pass on since they've made it clear (acceptably so, they clearly do not plan to go above and beyond and are not obligated to) that they are the intermediary only. They have indicated that a new frame is likely to be the outcome which is something I'm reluctant to accept since the bike is only a week old today.OP, if this is, indeed a new bike, take it back to the dealer and ask their opinion.
I'm recalling now the issue of stalling with the new Thruxton I bought last December. Triumph had an ongoing issue (2 years) with these bikes stalling when the throttle was closed and yet they continued to sell them while they posed a significant risk of accident to the rider, this was acknowledged by the DVSA although Triumph issued a formal recall before the DVSA could have one imposed.
These two bikes are my first Triumph ownership experience and I find it remarkable that I could get so unlucky with both purchases.
As above, I'd be rejecting it and asking for a new one. Whatever Triumph say, or warranty they offer, the staff in Hinckley don't assemble these bikes on a regular basis so I'd be dubious about them swapping everything onto/into a new frame. Guess you'll have to wait and see what they offer first.
OP, I'm not sure what grounds the warranty claim could be on; obviously the bike will still function as intended, there's no safety issue, and you can't see the
weld/alignment detail when the bike is all assembled. Your dealer may just put in a claim anyway and see, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
RE the frame number, the dealer has to cut the headstock off the bike and return it to the factory, where they'll take a blank frame and put your number on it so the paperwork stays legit.
Pothole said:
the staff in Hinckley don't assemble these bikes on a regular basis
The staff in Hinckley assemble plenty of them; production lines are just used for mass production, so the years of testing/development before that involves building loads of pre-production bikes. EireEng said:
OP, I'm not sure what grounds the warranty claim could be on; obviously the bike will still function as intended, there's no safety issue, and you can't see the
weld/alignment detail when the bike is all assembled. Your dealer may just put in a claim anyway and see, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
RE the frame number, the dealer has to cut the headstock off the bike and return it to the factory, where they'll take a blank frame and put your number on it so the paperwork stays legit.
So you'd be happy, but I wouldn't. Opinions are like bums, eh?weld/alignment detail when the bike is all assembled. Your dealer may just put in a claim anyway and see, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
RE the frame number, the dealer has to cut the headstock off the bike and return it to the factory, where they'll take a blank frame and put your number on it so the paperwork stays legit.
Pothole said:
the staff in Hinckley don't assemble these bikes on a regular basis
The staff in Hinckley assemble plenty of them; production lines are just used for mass production, so the years of testing/development before that involves building loads of pre-production bikes. Pothole said:
So you'd be happy, but I wouldn't. Opinions are like bums, eh?
Indeed! I'm not saying I'd be happy; just saying I wouldn't hold my breath on a warranty replacement. The labour cost to pay a dealer to re-frame a bike is likely a lot, so I can't see it happening.
I'm actually in the process of rebuilding the engine in my own bike (which I think should have been a warranty replacement) but no joy, so I've got do do it myself. I'm not happy.
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