Breaking cars....
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Ford fan

Original Poster:

19 posts

104 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Has anyone had any experience with breaking cars as a side business?

I've got the space, tools, knowledge and proper methods in place... Just wondering how worth it, it'll be 'on the side'...

Thoughts?

Cheers people

J4CKO

46,970 posts

230 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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I think it can be very lucrative, but imagine you need to have to buy stock, break it and wait for cash to flow through.

sunbeam alpine

7,249 posts

218 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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It's been posted on here before. I believe the biggest challenge (if you want to do everything properly) is getting the licences for disposal/storage of fluids etc.

curlie467

7,650 posts

231 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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sunbeam alpine said:
It's been posted on here before. I believe the biggest challenge (if you want to do everything properly) is getting the licences for disposal/storage of fluids etc.
This is the pain bit. Fluids.

HorneyMX5

5,779 posts

180 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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A mate of mine does it as part of a wider business selling performance parts. He has to break 3 cars a week to make it worth his while. He has large overheads though.

I’ve broken a few cars in my spare time so have some experience. The big popular stuff goes quickly if you price well and are good at adverts. The small stuff and trim just hangs around forever but you can be sure that as soon as you chuck it someone will message you wanting it.

You need to pick cars that have lots worth selling and have a good following as it’s easier to sell the stuff.

Frimley111R

19,315 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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if you're just doing it on the side and have your own space it can be lucrative with the right cars. For example old Megane R26's aren't worth much now but often have a loads of modded bits on which people want. Sellers get fed up with trying to sell to timewasters and break the cars for more money

Ford fan

Original Poster:

19 posts

104 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Thanks people.... Your feedback and advice is appreciated.

I'm currently waiting to hear back from a few companies / representatives regarding fluid disposal and fingers crossed I can start....

Worth a shot I reckon

Glasgowrob

3,349 posts

151 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Definitely worth a shot

Just make sure you pick something with a strong base and pick out a niche market ie fast fords get in and around the owners clubs and get known for providing proven parts quickly at a sensible price.

If someone can pickup up the phone and have a known good alternator or starter etc on their doorstep next day you'll get business.

Sticking to a particular marquee does tie you on somewhat but makes your marketing easier as well as your specific knowledge on your parts and value. It's also easier to catalogue your stock too for example knowing there's only say 3 variations of alternator that you stock

Ford fan

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19 posts

104 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Glasgowrob....TOP Man!!! Cracking ideas there... I already decided only to break ford's for now as there's loads on the road and parts are always in demand... But going for that niche sounds even more lucrative.

Thanks again

Frimley111R

19,315 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Ford fan said:
But going for that niche sounds even more lucrative.

Thanks again
Yep but tbh the RS/ST owners are likely to be 99% of the Ford owners who want parts like these anyway.

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Friend of mine used to do it, he bought and stripped VW's and the odd performance Audi. He'd buy mot failures, unfinished projects etc. He picked up many performance cars for peanuts just because of minor problems that he knew from his knowledge were an easy fix. He was on a lot of the forums and got a good reputation and found this was a good place for a lot of stalled projects, with cash waved in front of them he nearly always got them for rock bottom price. He did have some pretty high over heads though with a large farm unit but subbed out the corner for a couple of mates to store their project cars.

Ford fan

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19 posts

104 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Some good points there, pick up mot failures.... Never thought of doing that repeatedly, knew I'd pick the odd one up but I think you're on to something there.

It seems as if fluid disposal is my only issue now....

Wacky Racer

41,383 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Ford fan said:
Glasgowrob....TOP Man!!! Cracking ideas there... I already decided only to break ford's for now as there's loads on the road and parts are always in demand... But going for that niche sounds even more lucrative.

Thanks again
My cousins started a Ford only breakers in Stockport town centre in the 70's...REMOCO.....made a LOT of money at the time with several employees, but sold it many years ago. I see it now seems to have closed down unfortunately

Used to be probably the biggest in the country for Ford parts at that time..

Ford fan

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19 posts

104 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Time to revive that business then I think....!

Seriously, sounds like he smashed it, unfortunate that businesses like that seem to be closing down everywhere.

Glasgowrob

3,349 posts

151 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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The thing is it doesn't have to be fast fords just find a niche and stick with it


Break corsas

Their popular plenty hotter models to get on that side of the market and you have a huge market who will be always willing to buy parts off of you again I'll reiterate the importance of building a reputation for competitive pricing and known working parts

Targets back street dealers and garages

Make it your card on the wall for that particular marques parts


Oh crap need a window regulator for Mrs Smith's Corsa

Oh phone corsabreakers the guys top drawer and will have one here for us in the morning

The important things being

Known good parts that are guaranteed to be working

Quick and I mean at latest next day availability

And knowing your stock inventory management is a key thing here

Ha e everything listed and ideally available on line vatalouged with photos time consuming and boring but imagine it from a customer point of view

Log on 3/4 separate pictures so you can confirm its the right bit of trim or the right start motor click click and it's at your workshop the next morning

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Ford fan said:
Time to revive that business then I think....!

Seriously, sounds like he smashed it, unfortunate that businesses like that seem to be closing down everywhere.
There are reasons why they are closing down though....

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Glasgowrob said:
The thing is it doesn't have to be fast fords just find a niche and stick with it


Break corsas

Their popular plenty hotter models to get on that side of the market and you have a huge market who will be always willing to buy parts off of you again I'll reiterate the importance of building a reputation for competitive pricing and known working parts

Targets back street dealers and garages

Make it your card on the wall for that particular marques parts


Oh crap need a window regulator for Mrs Smith's Corsa

Oh phone corsabreakers the guys top drawer and will have one here for us in the morning

The important things being

Known good parts that are guaranteed to be working

Quick and I mean at latest next day availability

And knowing your stock inventory management is a key thing here

Ha e everything listed and ideally available on line vatalouged with photos time consuming and boring but imagine it from a customer point of view

Log on 3/4 separate pictures so you can confirm its the right bit of trim or the right start motor click click and it's at your workshop the next morning
This is a good post.

What is particularly interesting is that to make this approach work requires good marketing (so potential customers know about the service being offered), a good website which provides the information the customer needs, a very good sales/delivery process and tight stock control management.

In fact the core requirements which many businesses need. Breaking the Corsas or Fords will be the relative easy bit. It also might partially explain why the businesses who previously worked in this sector are no longer in business.

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
This is a good post.

What is particularly interesting is that to make this approach work requires good marketing (so potential customers know about the service being offered), a good website which provides the information the customer needs, a very good sales/delivery process and tight stock control management.

In fact the core requirements which many businesses need. Breaking the Corsas or Fords will be the relative easy bit. It also might partially explain why the businesses who previously worked in this sector are no longer in business.
That in itself is going to be expensive - unless you simply advertise the parts on ebay (the selling of which is then expensive)

Also, are there not very tight regulations if you're a car breaker these days? Breaking a Corsa in a lock up might be a handy way of making a few extra £££ and would mean you could stay under the radar but doing so on the scale that you are nationally recognised as a "Corsa Breaker" or whatever is going to attract close scrutiny.

Also, its all very well being known as "the man" for Corsas, but each car you break only has pretty much one of each part. So you sell the alternator one day and someone rings the next day looking an alternator and you dont have any. They're going to go elsewhere that time and probably from then on.

Becoming the person who can reliably supply used parts every time would be an expensive business....

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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daemon said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
This is a good post.

What is particularly interesting is that to make this approach work requires good marketing (so potential customers know about the service being offered), a good website which provides the information the customer needs, a very good sales/delivery process and tight stock control management.

In fact the core requirements which many businesses need. Breaking the Corsas or Fords will be the relative easy bit. It also might partially explain why the businesses who previously worked in this sector are no longer in business.
That in itself is going to be expensive - unless you simply advertise the parts on ebay (the selling of which is then expensive)

Also, are there not very tight regulations if you're a car breaker these days? Breaking a Corsa in a lock up might be a handy way of making a few extra £££ and would mean you could stay under the radar but doing so on the scale that you are nationally recognised as a "Corsa Breaker" or whatever is going to attract close scrutiny.

Also, its all very well being known as "the man" for Corsas, but each car you break only has pretty much one of each part. So you sell the alternator one day and someone rings the next day looking an alternator and you dont have any. They're going to go elsewhere that time and probably from then on.

Becoming the person who can reliably supply used parts every time would be an expensive business....
I agree - this is kind of the point I was making that breaking the cars would be the easy bit smile

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
daemon said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
This is a good post.

What is particularly interesting is that to make this approach work requires good marketing (so potential customers know about the service being offered), a good website which provides the information the customer needs, a very good sales/delivery process and tight stock control management.

In fact the core requirements which many businesses need. Breaking the Corsas or Fords will be the relative easy bit. It also might partially explain why the businesses who previously worked in this sector are no longer in business.
That in itself is going to be expensive - unless you simply advertise the parts on ebay (the selling of which is then expensive)

Also, are there not very tight regulations if you're a car breaker these days? Breaking a Corsa in a lock up might be a handy way of making a few extra £££ and would mean you could stay under the radar but doing so on the scale that you are nationally recognised as a "Corsa Breaker" or whatever is going to attract close scrutiny.

Also, its all very well being known as "the man" for Corsas, but each car you break only has pretty much one of each part. So you sell the alternator one day and someone rings the next day looking an alternator and you dont have any. They're going to go elsewhere that time and probably from then on.

Becoming the person who can reliably supply used parts every time would be an expensive business....
I agree - this is kind of the point I was making that breaking the cars would be the easy bit smile
Ah, ok, i was reading it from the angle that overall it would be easy.

I think its probably an ok venture for doing maybe 1 car a month and flogging the bits on ebay / facebook / gumtree, maybe storing the bits that havent sold after a month but are likely to sell and then disposing of the remains. Expanding beyond that, i'd have my doubts.

The other issue is actually buying the cars to break at a reasonable price. Most "mot failures" tend to be old and near end of life. Understanding the sweet spot of the car being old enough to be bought cheaply but young enough for there still to be demand for the parts is key.