Wife transferring ownership of house to daughter in secret
Wife transferring ownership of house to daughter in secret
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gobuddygo

Original Poster:

1,536 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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My mother-in-law passes away 18 months ago and her house passed to my wife, I have discovered my wife is seeing a solicitor to transfer the ownership of the house to her daughter (my step daughter) in secret, I found out by accident, its also still currently registered to her parents.

As we are going through some marriage difficulties at the moment i'm wondering how i stand legal with the property if it ends up in divorce and we have to split all our assets between us.

We are currently renting out the MiL's house and have our own mortgage free property.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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You can try to have it included as a marital asset, but I always think it's a bit scummy to try to steal someone else's inheritance.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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She just wants to keep her family assets in her own family. Why should you be entitled to her parents home?

JulianHJ

8,870 posts

292 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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gobuddygo said:
My mother-in-law passes away 18 months ago and her house passed to my wife, I have discovered my wife is seeing a solicitor to transfer the ownership of the house to her daughter (my step daughter) in secret, I found out by accident, its also still currently registered to her parents.

As we are going through some marriage difficulties at the moment i'm wondering how i stand legal with the property if it ends up in divorce and we have to split all our assets between us.

We are currently renting out the MiL's house and have our own mortgage free property.
Unless there is a lot more to this story (e.g. you helped pay for your MIL’s house) I don’t think this thread is going to go the way you hoped...

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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My wife inherited a £450k farmhouse some years back, after we separated. I've never felt entitled to a slice of that.

AllyBassman

779 posts

142 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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See nothing wrong in this,

Do you have any financial interest in it? (other than trying to geg-in on your partners inheritance?)

super7

2,261 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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If you think your marriage is on the rocks, then butt out of it, and let her give it to her duaghter....

At what point do you really think this is yours to argue about.

I wouldn't think twice if my misses wanted to give her inheritance to her Daughter. My Sons will inherit from me, not from her, likewise her daughter will inherit from her and not from me....

The fact that she has to do this behind your back probably describes how she feels about how you'd react if she was upfront... See first line above.

Sheepshanks

41,090 posts

149 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
You can try to have it included as a marital asset, but I always think it's a bit scummy to try to steal someone else's inheritance.
Don't agree with that at all - the wife is clearly trying to put a marital asset out of reach.

gobuddygo

Original Poster:

1,536 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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I don't have any financial interest in the house and don't really care what she does with it, but i have spent 1000's on our current house and I pay all the bills but will have no doubt i will have to split half of its value with her if it comes to it.

super7

2,261 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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And theres a difference between where you stand legally (entitled to some of it) and where you stand morally!

super7

2,261 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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gobuddygo said:
......but i have spent 1000's on our current house and I pay all the bills but will have no doubt i will have to split half of its value with her if it comes to it.
So YOU spent the money, rather than you and your wife as a couple? Why did you marry her??

tony wright

1,042 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Would imagine She will have issues convincing a divorce judge that it belongs to her Daughter and always has done, espesially if your renting it out. Otherwise why wouldn't the Daughter be doing this. I can also see where your coming from, when my parents died my Wife spent most of the inheritance on new kitchens, family holidays etc. I had absolutely no issue with this as the money belonged to us (married 30yrs). Her parents are fit and healthy, thankfully and once again there will be no problem when the inevitable happens (unless we go firstlaugh) as it will be our money. Although she will probably want another new kitchen...

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

162 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Ignore the trolls and wise up or you are in for a right royal shafting, get yourself a solicitor asap.

Some things you to be clear about, did your MIL die intestate or leave a will, if a will did it leave the house to your wife or step-daughter? Who is the executor. If she died intestate or it was left directly to your wife, then it is community property for the purposes of any divorce.


Voldemort

7,600 posts

308 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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gobuddygo said:
...if it ends up in divorce and we have to split all our assets between us.
I'm sure you know, deep down, that you're going to be shafted. If you go for divorce now the inherited property would have to be considered in the asset pile. If the divorce happens just after the house has been transferred nobody on here will be surprised.


rlw

3,587 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Hang on. Aren't these the same people who say that the wife's a scheming so and so when she wants the house, the kids the car and all the money to look after them.

The OP has a a very fair point. In a contested divorce, there would have to be an agreed split of the family assets and the MiL's house would certainly be on that list. And I don't think transferring it to the daughter would get it off the list either. Presumably the OP has also worked hard and supported his wife and daughter and might expect to benefit jointly in some way.

CubanPete

3,806 posts

218 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Have you inherited, or are you due to inherit anything?

If you have and expect this will be shared I see your pain, if you haven't and expect to post (presumed) separation let her carry on.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,108 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Money or assets that come to a couple, whether earned, inherited, found in the street, won in a competition or whatever, is family money and belongs to both of you.

So long as you've shared all your assets and earnings and bonuses etc. with your wife during your marriage, you are legally and morally entitled to half a house she's inherited, imho.

rlw

3,587 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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super7 said:
And theres a difference between where you stand legally (entitled to some of it) and where you stand morally!
Maybe but in the OP's position I would take the legal stance too. Unless she is intends to let him have the full value of the family home if they split up.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Whilst there is an element of "Why do you think you should be entitled to a cut?" This is a very valid question that the OP has posted.

How do we know that the OP's parents have not passed away and he shared out inheritance with wife? How do we know that the wife will not be doing this today and then in 4 months seek a divorce and look at taking any potential inheritance that the O might receive into the calculations?

The fact that it is being done without the OP being supposed to know about it is a red flag in the first place to me, regardless of if they agree with it or not.

I don't know enough to advise and would not seek to do so on here but i would suggest that the OP would be wise, regardless of this particular issue, to seek some paid for insured professional advice on their position as a whole if there should happen to be a separation leading to divorce in the coming months.

Knowing your best and worst case scenarios is very empowering and also means that you are unlikely to blindly agree to demands without a quid pro quo.

The law is also less moralistic and more practical than PHers when it comes to inheritance and divorce.

The phrase that springs to mind is "Intentional deprivation of capital", Although that one is more often heard of other areas of the law.

On the face of it if this is a marriage on the rocks what the wife is doing is not "Making sure her family gets it's fair share", it is intentionally reducing the wife's individual wealth ahead of divorce so she can claim more of the matrimonial 'pot' than she would have been able to with the inheritance taken into account.

ETA there is little difference here (other than the sums involved) than where a person might 'sell' to a friend a cherished car for far less than it's worth and then somehow buy it back a few weeks after all the divorce and financial proceedings have been concluded.

Edited by Rude-boy on Tuesday 3rd April 13:29

roachcoach

3,975 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Money or assets that come to a couple, whether earned, inherited, found in the street, won in a competition or whatever, is family money and belongs to both of you.

So long as you've shared all your assets and earnings and bonuses etc. with your wife during your marriage, you are legally and morally entitled to half a house she's inherited, imho.
I'm pretty sure that is not how it works in Scotland, with respect to inherited assets.

So then....where you based OP?