Bmw head gasket failure?
Bmw head gasket failure?
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Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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So.. hello guys! First time posting here.

Im basically in the process of buying an E46 and i may have found a good one for a reasonable price, the only snag is the head gasket is 'gone' or on its way out apparently. Been over and took it for a test drive and all seemed well no white smoke and no miss fires. I cant tell if the coolant is bubbling because of the expansion tank is broke and leaking fluid. The lad doesnt know loads about cars but his mechanic told him it was on its way out. He's replaced the water housing, thermostat and the fuel pump but apparently still to no avail. Im hoping that i can change the expansion tank and run some steel seal through it to clog the gasket failure... if there is one. It just doesnt seem like the head gasket is going and the garage is just having his eyes out. Im just pretty sceptical for such a good deal close to home. Even he said i might have a great car foe dirt cheap he just doesnt know.

Any advice guys?

Cheers

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Corey6 said:
and run some steel seal through it to clog the gasket failure
Any advice guys?

Cheers
Are you looking at £1000 bmw's by any chance?
Find a different one.

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Yeah mate i am. Its all i can afford at the moment really, its in good nick and only on 100k so it seemed a proper good deal.

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Yeah mate i am. Its all i can afford at the moment really, its in good nick and only on 100k so it seemed a proper good deal.

bmwmike

8,782 posts

139 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Head gasket is either sound or it's not, there really isn't a middle ground of "on its way out". And they rarely fail, usually damaged by some underlying root cause. For example driving round with a leaking cooling system.

A cheap BMW is not a cheap car to run. Come to think of it an expensive one isn't cheap either because a lot of them aren't actually that reliable and the dealers are rubbish.

As someone else said, find another shed. There are heaps around in that price range. I sold my old e46 323i for under 700 notes and that was a good Un so they are out there.

GL!


Mr Tidy

31,794 posts

158 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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It's not unusual for expansion tanks on these to split - I had a new one on my 325ti Sport compact when I had the bowed radiator changed! (I only sold the car a month ago - less than £1,500 and on just 103K miles).

If you like it in every other way, could you get a compression test done on it?

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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I might be able too. Unfortinatley i dont have a compression kit near where it is, im just afraid that the extra compression from the tank without the split will start producing smoke as it'll force the coolant into the head. Its a brilliant car and its had quite a bit of work done, it just seems that the expansion tank is the only problem and an engine warning light. I pretty much live between 2 homes, one in the north east and one in the north west (at my girlfriends) im just hoping if i do go for it that it will over heat on the 200 mile drive home haha.

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Also checked a few times, no water in the oil even after running for a while and a good blast round the block.

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Out of interest, what engine is it? Cooling systems are a weak point on the 6 cylinders but from what I understand isn't so much on the 4's.

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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I think its the 320i. He said he hadnt had any of these cooling problems in the last 4 years.

Mr Tidy

31,794 posts

158 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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So if it's a 320i E46 it'll have the 2.2 litre version of the M54 6-cylinder engine.

While I haven't read much about M54s having head gasket failure, I've read plenty about (and experienced) cooling system issues.

If you can't get it pressure tested, I guess it depends on whether you feel lucky!


bmwmike

8,782 posts

139 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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M54 HGF not unheard of but they are fairly robust engines. The problem becomes IF it is HGF then it's a replacement engine time rather than repair. The head bolts tend to pull the threads from the block from what I've read.

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Thats true. The problem is i was going to sell my car and then use the money to fix all the problems on the BM. I dont really want to have it in the garage for an engine swap if you get me.

Is there any other tests i can perform next time i view the car?

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Honestly i'd go and find another one rather than wasting the sellers time with multiple viewings, why spend time & money fixing a shed when you could more than likely find one working for the same money?

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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True... im just very picky with what i want at the moment and thats the perfect spec. I wont be home till next week anyway so if its about and ive got the cash ill pick it up and leave it on the drive.

4rephill

5,171 posts

209 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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It sounds to me as though the cooling system let go, the engine overheated, with the temp gauge going into the red, and rather than stopping the engine immediately, the owner owner carried on driving, and now the engine has issues.

My advice: Walk away - It sounds like a whole lot of (expensive) misery and a money pit!


Sardonicus

19,462 posts

252 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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4rephill said:
It sounds to me as though the cooling system let go, the engine overheated, with the temp gauge going into the red, and rather than stopping the engine immediately, the owner owner carried on driving, and now the engine has issues.

My advice: Walk away - It sounds like a whole lot of (expensive) misery and a money pit!

I'll go with this ^ an E46 with a suspected HG issue is never going to be cheap or indeed a bargain purchase frown like mentioned earlier find another and I agree

Corey6

Original Poster:

22 posts

103 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Okay guys. Cheers for your advice, ill hold off for a bit and see what crops up! Hopefully it'll be in better condition even if it is high milage.

SebringMan

1,774 posts

217 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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Corey6 said:
Okay guys. Cheers for your advice, ill hold off for a bit and see what crops up! Hopefully it'll be in better condition even if it is high milage.
Not a problem if it's the right car.

I once owned a low owner 944 S2 with 120k on the clock. It cost me far far more to run than my 170k Turbo ever did. Why? the turbo had been through better hands, where it was a money no-object exercise to keep the car well. I did more miles in the turbo too.