Cars registered to Porsche GB when new ?
Cars registered to Porsche GB when new ?
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Kananga

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1,154 posts

179 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Hi,

I’m thinking of buying a car, currently owned privately. The first owner (up to c.1500 miles) was Porsche GB.

I assume a dealer demo would have been registered to the dealership.

Any reason the car would have been registered to Porsche GB ? Would prefer to avoid a press/PEC example. The low mileage when sold to the current keeper makes me think it was just a Porsche employee/etc.

Thx in advance for any views.

Edited by Kananga on Saturday 7th April 15:28

AW10

4,619 posts

272 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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I'll guess a press car might be heavily optioned? And have you searched on the reg used at the time for any hits? Or done a google image search for that model colour? Might feel like looking for a needle in a haystack but worth 5-10 minutes IMHO.

mattman

3,192 posts

245 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Probably got ragged around the Silverstone experience centre for its early life - not sure I’d take the risk without documented proof of what Porsche did with it (which i assume is highly unlikely)
Lots of cars out there - unless it’s a real bargain i’d Move on to the next personally

Kananga

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1,154 posts

179 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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AW10 said:
I'll guess a press car might be heavily optioned? And have you searched on the reg used at the time for any hits? Or done a google image search for that model colour? Might feel like looking for a needle in a haystack but worth 5-10 minutes IMHO.
Yup. Did all the above and no hits. Not super heavily optioned which gives me confidence. Also the lowish mileage doesn’t seem consistent with press/PEC ?

Kananga

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1,154 posts

179 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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mattman said:
Probably got ragged around the Silverstone experience centre for its early life - not sure I’d take the risk without documented proof of what Porsche did with it (which i assume is highly unlikely)
Lots of cars out there - unless it’s a real bargain i’d Move on to the next personally
Wouldn’t a PEC car have more like 5-6k mileage?

Koln-RS

4,089 posts

235 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Probably a Porsche Management car, used by an executive and then sold to the franchise network at one of the in-house auctions. They normally have an R? prefix in the reg and often quite highly specd.

There's no reason why it should be an issue. If anything, management cars will be very well looked after.

Kananga

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1,154 posts

179 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Yup. That was my suspicion.

Thanks for the feedback!

gtsralph

1,306 posts

167 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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If a management car the V5 will show the name and address of the keeper (the manager) not PCGB

5to1

1,789 posts

256 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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What car is it? That could give you some clues or eliminate other possibilities.

Koln-RS

4,089 posts

235 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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gtsralph said:
If a management car the V5 will show the name and address of the keeper (the manager) not PCGB
Really?

moonigan

2,204 posts

264 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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gtsralph said:
If a management car the V5 will show the name and address of the keeper (the manager) not PCGB
Not true, or it certainly wasn't the case in 2011. My car was optioned as "Press Car" but was in fact a management car for the first 6 months and 4000 miles of its life. The last owner did his due diligence and found out this info before buying it

Kananga

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179 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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moonigan said:
Not true, or it certainly wasn't the case in 2011. My car was optioned as "Press Car" but was in fact a management car for the first 6 months and 4000 miles of its life. The last owner did his due diligence and found out this info before buying it
Do you know how the previous owner was able to confirm ?

moonigan

2,204 posts

264 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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Kananga said:
Do you know how the previous owner was able to confirm ?
He contacted Porsche GB. He's a senior member a PCGB so this may have helped him get through the usual firewalls.

Kananga

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1,154 posts

179 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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Understood, thank you.

Will drop a line into Porsche customer services to see if they can be of help.

Edited by Kananga on Sunday 8th April 14:33

Baz99

179 posts

138 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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Does it matter ? Porsche and the dealers register lots of cars. Might have been driven fast!! wow, that's what Posches are all about I've always thought.

jakesmith

9,493 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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Baz99 said:
Does it matter ? Porsche and the dealers register lots of cars. Might have been driven fast!! wow, that's what Posches are all about I've always thought.
Track miles are like 50 road miles, a car that has been used on track for 3000-5000 miles could be much closer to expensive brake / suspension bills than a road car with the same milage

Porsche Experience / journalist cars may have been driven by those trying to extract as much fun / performace as possible in a short amount of time and driven hard from cold which wears the engine significantly more than a warmed up car with well circulated oil




Kananga

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1,154 posts

179 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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Had a confirmation from Porsche that it was used “...for marketing purposes...” but that’s all they could say.

May just pass and wait for another.

Baz99

179 posts

138 months

Wednesday 11th April 2018
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jakesmith said:
Track miles are like 50 road miles, a car that has been used on track for 3000-5000 miles could be much closer to expensive brake / suspension bills than a road car with the same milage

Porsche Experience / journalist cars may have been driven by those trying to extract as much fun / performace as possible in a short amount of time and driven hard from cold which wears the engine significantly more than a warmed up car with well circulated oil
In my experience most of the time at Silverstone the cars are driven quite gently. Most owners will treat new Porsches like any other car, not everyone cossets them or wraps them in cotton wool, buy on condition don't let a good car go because of what might have been.

stevewak

530 posts

153 months

Wednesday 11th April 2018
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My 1995 993 was first registered to Porsche Cars GB. Then sold to AFN where it had an 'AFN' plate. It is a pre-Vario C2 in Slate Grey, a colour favoured by PCGB then and one that often featured in road test articles. Oddly, no service invoices in that first two-year period but a fully stamped book. They were also used by senior staff at PCGB. Paragon sold and then serviced it for many years, a sign of a thorough inspection. Now 93,000 miles.

I think it's a plus and - would I ever sell it - highlight this as part of its history (I work on classic cars for sale texts). JAZ look after it and, bar usual 993 issues, say it is a very strong car.

My thoughts, 23 years on from new - my car since 2013. Below from 1996, not mine...


PaulD86

1,814 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th April 2018
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My other halves 911 C4S was registered to Porsche GB as the first owner. We got it at 18 months olt with 700 miles and 24k off new list price (it's heavily spec'd). I was concerned about track use but the tyres on it when it came were worn consistent with 700 miles of not especially hard road use and from the age of them looked very much like the would have been the originals. The car didn't even feel run in. For the spec it was a very good buy.