996TT front brake disc repalcement
996TT front brake disc repalcement
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911 habit

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294 posts

272 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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My std. 996TT front brake disc need replacing due to the common hair line cracks across the cross drilled holes. I don't want the expense of a massive system upgrade at this time, so I'm looking at the options for discs & pads to last the next 6-12 months.

Does anyone know of makes and places that may do them? (Besides OPCs)I was thinking of something like Zimmermann discs, but I can't seem to find them for the TT. Anyone experienced such things on a 996TT?

I put zimmermann’s on my last 996c2 and they were as good as the OEM discs, if not better.

Cheers

Gerry.

willr

363 posts

280 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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The OEM disks are about £125 each, IIRC - surely not too much?

t urbo

218 posts

289 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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Gerry
I too am looking for new discs and front pads for my tt but am also having trouble finding a retailer. Ive spoke to a couple but they either couldnt get the pads or were going to call back.
My discs and pads were replaced 2k ago by a main dealer and i felt they ripped me off so i want to purchase and replace them myself this time.
If you have any luck let me know.

911 habit

Original Poster:

294 posts

272 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Interesting. I've had a quote from my OPC....bla bla £870....bla bla....to you (long term customer) £700 fitted. Discs @£125 each & pads @ £165 & fitting kit + 2.5hrs labour.

Not massively expensive compared to Brembo's or GT3 CUP brakes, but compared to my last 996c2 they're considerably more (I know they are larger etc.)

The thing is I need them quite soon, so unless someone knows of a cheaper option, then I will have to take the OPC offer.

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Have you thought about having them Skimmed ????


If it's just the cracks that are the problem rather than them being worn out, then having them skimmed could give you a bit more life out of them, as this will shorten the length of most, if not all of the cracks.

I've just had mine done, and they've given me a good 2-3 more trackdays.

G.

cyrus1971

855 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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I think the 997 S has the same fronts as the 996 TT - if so I guess they cost the same but you never know in the crazy world of Porsche pricing ...

t urbo

218 posts

289 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Glenn
Are you saying the cracks are only surface?
Mine are cracked, but not all the way from hole to hole but they have only seen 1 track day and 2000 road miles. I was going to track them once more then replace them.

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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t urbo said:
Glenn
Are you saying the cracks are only surface?
Mine are cracked, but not all the way from hole to hole but they have only seen 1 track day and 2000 road miles. I was going to track them once more then replace them.





These cracks don't tend to go right through.

it's only when cracks go over 5-10mm or hole to hole when you should change them.

The cacks themselves cause no problem i believe, its just if they get too long, or join hole to hole, then chunks could come off of the disc, or even worse, i've heard of them exploding !!

Skimming is only a short term fix, but it means that the crack length is usually reduced, thus giving a bit more life out of the disc. and saving money.

Most GT3 discs start to crack after 2-3 trackdays, then get prgressivly worse.
The cracking is generally down to overheating of the disc, so more cool down laps can lengthen the life span.

This just experience i have just picked up along the way, but please check with a specialist like JZ Machtech or Parr Motorsport, or last resort your OPC, before you go nailing around on them!!

G.

>> Edited by Glenn McMenamin on Tuesday 26th April 17:20

>> Edited by Glenn McMenamin on Tuesday 26th April 17:20

t urbo

218 posts

289 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Cheers,

I think i will look into the skimming option just so i can get another track day out of them. I cant believe how poor the tt's discs are on the track.Ok i gave it my best but still i thought they would last a bit longer, and the pads are a joke i only get 1 track day out of the std pads then they fall apart.
Do you know if the GT3 discs will fit the tt?

glenn mcmenamin

2,305 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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t urbo said:
Cheers,

I think i will look into the skimming option just so i can get another track day out of them. I cant believe how poor the tt's discs are on the track.Ok i gave it my best but still i thought they would last a bit longer, and the pads are a joke i only get 1 track day out of the std pads then they fall apart.
Do you know if the GT3 discs will fit the tt?




MKII discs are bigger than turbos (i think), so they wouldn't fit, you could upgrade to the 6 pot calipers and discs of the GT3, but you'll still have this cracking problem anyway.

If you're serious about more trackdays, then 1st bet would be to upgrade your brake fluid to Castrol SRF, and pads to something more track specific, i've just changed to Carbon metalic, and they're awesome, no spongy pedal at all.

Discs will always be the expensive bit, and to tell the truth the turbo is probably even harder on them than most other cars, due to its power, and weight.
Spend more time cooling them down, and this should help.

Maybe time for a GT3 though mate !!!!

G.



>> Edited by glenn mcmenamin on Tuesday 26th April 18:28

Rods

1,798 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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t urbo said:
Cheers,

I think i will look into the skimming option just so i can get another track day out of them. I cant believe how poor the tt's discs are on the track.Ok i gave it my best but still i thought they would last a bit longer, and the pads are a joke i only get 1 track day out of the std pads then they fall apart.
Do you know if the GT3 discs will fit the tt?


I have GT3 cup discs and pads on my TT,however you will need to change your calipers to 6 pot.
A worthwhile upgrade if you are doing trackdays and they certainly seem to last longer.

Rob

t urbo

218 posts

289 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Rods,
Do you use the Std GT3 calipers or a similar brand?
Can you tell me where you got them.

Glenn,
I could do with my tt being a bit quicker as it is, and i love the way i can use all its power out of bends, in the wet etc day to day. The GT3 is the better option for the track but i dont have the dosh to own both. I uprated the fluid after the first track day in it as the pedal to the floor event was a bit worrying, and ive now fitted pagid pads.

Rods

1,798 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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t urbo said:
Rods,
Do you use the Std GT3 calipers or a similar brand?
Can you tell me where you got them.



9M fitted mine(ninemeister) on here.
They are standard GT3 cup six pot calipers with 350 steel discs.
The six pot braking is in another league to the standard Turbo,however you will need a hub conversion to fit the calipers and once done you will not be able to change back to standard.
I was at RuF last week and they are using the same brakes on 600plus bhp cars,enough said.

Rob

johnfm

13,751 posts

277 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Discs and pads lasting one track day...maybe you're a bit heavy on the middle pedal - though the TT is a fairly heavy beast.

t urbo

218 posts

289 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Thanks Rob, i will call 9M for a price and go from there.

kiko

269 posts

253 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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Hey, t urbo,

Have you fitted the 6-pot's? have you tracked her since? What were the results as I right where you were it terms of TT brakes...
Cheers
Francisco

rich1231

17,339 posts

287 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Rods said:

t urbo said:
Rods,
Do you use the Std GT3 calipers or a similar brand?
Can you tell me where you got them.




9M fitted mine(ninemeister) on here.
They are standard GT3 cup six pot calipers with 350 steel discs.
The six pot braking is in another league to the standard Turbo,however you will need a hub conversion to fit the calipers and once done you will not be able to change back to standard.
I was at RuF last week and they are using the same brakes on 600plus bhp cars,enough said.

Rob


Rods,

what was the price for your break conversion? Mail me offline if you dont want to post.

Cheers


Rich

Rods

1,798 posts

280 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Rich yhm.