Will there be any benefit in dual nationality post Brexit

[Pistom]

Shortly after the 23rd June vote, there was a surge in applications for UK nationals to apply for passports of other countries that they may have had a distant relative from and for nationality in the remaining EU countries.

What benefit is there in that?

Whilst there is the potential for trading to be more involved, I can't see travel to Europe being an issue for us UK nationals so what is the point?

[bloomen]

You're forgetting that little living and working bit? Holidays will never be affected.

I've worked in the EU for years. Much of my family lives there. They're all getting the citizenship of where they're living. If I had the option I certainly would too.

[captain_cynic]

bloomen said:

You're forgetting that little living and working bit? Holidays will never be affected.

This.

There's good money in many professions working in Europe, IT, Finance, STEM, but if you're not an EU citizen, you've got bugger all chance of getting work there. Quite a few places prefer British applicants because the business runs in English despite the local language being French or Dutch.

Getting working visas are a huge PITA, so companies will be turned off of British applicants. I get a call from a European company every few months who've seen my resume on Seek or the like, I hate having to explain that I'm not a UK citizen (non-points based visa, full employment and residency rights in the UK but in the UK only). Its annoying because often they're offering better money.

[Pistom]

bloomen said:

You're forgetting that little living and working bit?

Yes - I am!

Thanks for putting me right.

[Countdown]

Dual Nationality saves on Visa hassle for those that travel regularly.

[bloomen]

Pistom said:

Yes - I am!

Thanks for putting me right.

People will always be able to get jobs in Europe but unless it's streamlined it's going to automatically nobble them. When you have a pain free pool of continentals to choose from then a Brit would have to be pretty compelling.

We have no idea how any of it's going to work of course, but I can't imagine they're going to keep the status quo.

[TooMany2cvs]

bloomen said:

We have no idea how any of it's going to work of course, but I can't imagine they're going to keep the status quo.

Whatever happens will be reciprocal. So UK nat'ls wanting to retire to the Costa del EU will inevitably have to jump through the same hoops as Wladek the plasterer wanting to move to the UK.

And we all know how popular Wladek's removal van is with the average Mail-believing Leaver.

[Hunaudieres]

I had the option to take dual-nationality through my father and after the referendum result decided to so do.

For the £100 or so that it cost, I didn't see a downside to it, while it potentially has a huge list of positives depending on what happens in the next couple of years.

[PositronicRay]

Didn't I hear something about USA dual's? The states can levy a tax bill on the sale of you UK property or some such thing.

[andoverben]

PositronicRay said:

Didn't I hear something about USA dual's? The states can levy a tax bill on the sale of you UK property or some such thing.

I don't imagine there is a huge queue for people wanting dual US Nationality to keep freedom of movement in the EU :-)

[paul.deitch]

I went for dual nationality because my siblings live in the UK and my kids live in various countries in Europe and therefore being a pensioner I can decide to live wherever I want. It helps if you speak a few languages too.

[Taita]

Couple of security clearance issues if you work in that sector. SC is fine but I know of two people who had to revoke the other citizenship to get DV.

[98elise]

andoverben said:

PositronicRay said:

Didn't I hear something about USA dual's? The states can levy a tax bill on the sale of you UK property or some such thing.

I don't imagine there is a huge queue for people wanting dual US Nationality to keep freedom of movement in the EU :-)

I didn't think the US allowed dual nationality?

[ReaperCushions]

98elise said:

andoverben said:

PositronicRay said:

Didn't I hear something about USA dual's? The states can levy a tax bill on the sale of you UK property or some such thing.

I don't imagine there is a huge queue for people wanting dual US Nationality to keep freedom of movement in the EU :-)

I didn't think the US allowed dual nationality?

It does.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/t...

Or more clearly, it doesn't stop you. You can be both at the same time.

[TooMany2cvs]

98elise said:

andoverben said:

PositronicRay said:

Didn't I hear something about USA dual's? The states can levy a tax bill on the sale of you UK property or some such thing.

I don't imagine there is a huge queue for people wanting dual US Nationality to keep freedom of movement in the EU :-)

I didn't think the US allowed dual nationality?

It's not that long since Boris rescinded his - precisely because of the tax.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-k-foreign-secretary...

[silverthorn2151]

Lots of our friends are doing this. Scrabbling to be Oirish mostly.

I think its all a bit unseemly to be honest. Proper British, with no claim to a passport elsewhere, nor do I covet one. I do have a French great great great Grandmother though. Probably a bit thin, even if I were interested.

[davepoth]

So far as retiring goes, most countries have a special (and fairly lax) visa for immigrating - including Spain. The thinking is that retirees will definitely have an independent income, and won't be stealing jobs from locals - win-win, really.

[TooMany2cvs]

davepoth said:

So far as retiring goes, most countries have a special (and fairly lax) visa for immigrating - including Spain.

Do many people retire to Spain from outside the EU?

davepoth said:

The thinking is that retirees will definitely have an independent income, and won't be stealing jobs from locals - win-win, really.

Healthcare...?

[davepoth]

TooMany2cvs said:

davepoth said:

So far as retiring goes, most countries have a special (and fairly lax) visa for immigrating - including Spain.

Do many people retire to Spain from outside the EU?

Some do, since there's a special visa for it.

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/MIAMI/en/I...

TooMany2cvs said:

davepoth said:

The thinking is that retirees will definitely have an independent income, and won't be stealing jobs from locals - win-win, really.

Healthcare...?

Is likely to be reciprocal, as it is for countries like New Zealand.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1982/017...

Remember, that swings both ways - there will still be a lot of people traveling from Spain to the UK, both for short trips and on visas.

[FN2TypeR]

silverthorn2151 said:

Lots of our friends are doing this. Scrabbling to be Oirish mostly.

I think its all a bit unseemly to be honest. Proper British, with no claim to a passport elsewhere, nor do I covet one. I do have a French great great great Grandmother though. Probably a bit thin, even if I were interested.

I was born in England but I spent nine years of my childhood abroad, consequently I have both a British passport and a New Zealand one, am I not "proper British"?