Do you (have to) back earned cash?
Do you (have to) back earned cash?
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largelunchbox

Original Poster:

610 posts

231 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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I’m not talking about avoiding tax. The scenario would be receiving cash from a job then issuing a invoice and putting said invoice thro the books thus declaring the earned cash. Then just keeping the cash on hip rather than banking it for convenience. Any one know if this is a problem?

KevinCamaroSS

13,838 posts

310 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Provided the invoice is shown as paid then there should not be an issue if you are a sole trader/partnership. You would show the value as received and also the same amount as drawings.

ghost83

5,639 posts

220 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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That^

Or it would be there in petty cash

As long as u can prove where it’s gone it’s ok

ElectricPics

761 posts

111 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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largelunchbox said:
I’m not talking about avoiding tax. The scenario would be receiving cash from a job then issuing a invoice and putting said invoice thro the books thus declaring the earned cash. Then just keeping the cash on hip rather than banking it for convenience. Any one know if this is a problem?
I do it all the time but I make an entry on my accounts so my books balance.

Dave Hedgehog

16,338 posts

234 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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or just do what 'my mate' does, bank the cash in a safe at home, never allow it to have an electronic trace and spend on it stuff that has no physical asset to show for it, like holidays, restaurants, track days

clockworks

7,699 posts

175 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Many of my customers pay cash. I pay some into the bank to cover direct debits and credit card purchases, some I keep for cash purchases like fuel and food shopping.

As long as it goes through the books, makes no difference. No point queuing up to pay it in, then drawing it out again at the end of the week.

Might be different if you are talking about big sums I guess, where an audit trail could be handy to avoid suspicion of money laundering

Fastpedeller

4,350 posts

176 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Dave Hedgehog said:
or just do what 'my mate' does, bank the cash in a safe at home, never allow it to have an electronic trace and spend on it stuff that has no physical asset to show for it, like holidays, restaurants, track days
Not to be recommended. Would you play tennis against a Wimbledon pro and win? Take on HMRC at your peril. Foolish plan, as HMRC have seen every trick in the book and know what businesses are likely to be taking.

Zetec-S

6,902 posts

123 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Dave Hedgehog said:
or just do what 'my mate' does, bank the cash in a safe at home, never allow it to have an electronic trace and spend on it stuff that has no physical asset to show for it, like holidays, restaurants, track days
scratchchin so, where does your ‘mate’ live? banditsmash

98elise

32,633 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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ElectricPics said:
largelunchbox said:
I’m not talking about avoiding tax. The scenario would be receiving cash from a job then issuing a invoice and putting said invoice thro the books thus declaring the earned cash. Then just keeping the cash on hip rather than banking it for convenience. Any one know if this is a problem?
I do it all the time but I make an entry on my accounts so my books balance.
Agreed, I've done a few things where I've just had to record the transaction, but not physically do it. As an example I have a director's loan which I'm converting to a dividend. My accountant tells me I don't need to pay the loan back, then withdraw it as a dividend. I just need to make the right entry in my books and complete the dividend paperwork.

It makes sense as physically moving the money adds nothing.

RRLover

450 posts

232 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Fastpedeller said:
Not to be recommended. Would you play tennis against a Wimbledon pro and win? Take on HMRC at your peril. Foolish plan, as HMRC have seen every trick in the book and know what businesses are likely to be taking.
They are very much poacher turned gamekeeper.
Its got to be done right

largelunchbox

Original Poster:

610 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Dave Hedgehog said:
or just do what 'my mate' does, bank the cash in a safe at home, never allow it to have an electronic trace and spend on it stuff that has no physical asset to show for it, like holidays, restaurants, track days
Thx but I’m not askin ways too avoid tax.

largelunchbox

Original Poster:

610 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Provided the invoice is shown as paid then there should not be an issue if you are a sole trader/partnership. You would show the value as received and also the same amount as drawings.
Thx, just wanted too make sure this was legit

Eric Mc

125,681 posts

295 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Cash transactions are still perfectly legal. So far, the UK government has not passed any sort of legislation making it not legal.

Obviously, the law says you still need to account for cash transactions properly.