Royal Oak information
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Hello,
I was looking at a Royal Oak black dial 41mm. It was stunning but I don’t know enough about them. Apparently if you want a blue dial you can only buy them in a boutique.
Are the Royal Oaks hard to buy? Would the black dial be desirable. Do they hold their value?
I was comparing it to a black dial Daytona at £14k. I preferred the Royal Oak but need more information before feeling comfortable buying it.
I was looking at a Royal Oak black dial 41mm. It was stunning but I don’t know enough about them. Apparently if you want a blue dial you can only buy them in a boutique.
Are the Royal Oaks hard to buy? Would the black dial be desirable. Do they hold their value?
I was comparing it to a black dial Daytona at £14k. I preferred the Royal Oak but need more information before feeling comfortable buying it.
I have two colleagues who own them. One is a rose gold on rubber strap, the other one a "classic" stainless steel with white dail.
I like the look of them but tbh to me they are not that special. I'm no Rolex fan but I think the Rolex presents better value for money, and will keep it's value better than the AP, unless you're really sold on the design of the AP then go for it.
Smart thing to do could be to seek out a "hommage", like the Didun Design, we compared it and it comes close to the Royal Oak, a good way to get a feel for it and see if you like the design/how it wears before spending some real money.
I like the look of them but tbh to me they are not that special. I'm no Rolex fan but I think the Rolex presents better value for money, and will keep it's value better than the AP, unless you're really sold on the design of the AP then go for it.
Smart thing to do could be to seek out a "hommage", like the Didun Design, we compared it and it comes close to the Royal Oak, a good way to get a feel for it and see if you like the design/how it wears before spending some real money.
ZesPak said:
I have two colleagues who own them. One is a rose gold on rubber strap, the other one a "classic" stainless steel with white dail.
I like the look of them but tbh to me they are not that special. I'm no Rolex fan but I think the Rolex presents better value for money, and will keep it's value better than the AP, unless you're really sold on the design of the AP then go for it.
Smart thing to do could be to seek out a "hommage", like the Didun Design, we compared it and it comes close to the Royal Oak, a good way to get a feel for it and see if you like the design/how it wears before spending some real money.
I thought the other way the Rolex at overs looks bad value when you can buy a AP at list.I like the look of them but tbh to me they are not that special. I'm no Rolex fan but I think the Rolex presents better value for money, and will keep it's value better than the AP, unless you're really sold on the design of the AP then go for it.
Smart thing to do could be to seek out a "hommage", like the Didun Design, we compared it and it comes close to the Royal Oak, a good way to get a feel for it and see if you like the design/how it wears before spending some real money.
£17k on a 2nd hand SS Daytona or £12k on a new AP !!! AP every day of the week.
Any Rolex over £5k looks bad value imo.
Pointless talking about Rolex and value retention — one’s a mass produced, market manipulated, pseudo tool watch, the other is a chic watch purporting to be sporty.
The two are at completely different levels of design & horology, and not even remotely competitors.
It’s effectively trying to draw comparisons between a single seater and a quick saloon/coupe/hatchback.
If the OP wants to go off the beaten track without spending more than necessary, then look at the Bvlgari Octo instead.
The two are at completely different levels of design & horology, and not even remotely competitors.
It’s effectively trying to draw comparisons between a single seater and a quick saloon/coupe/hatchback.
If the OP wants to go off the beaten track without spending more than necessary, then look at the Bvlgari Octo instead.
Edited by PJ S on Monday 23 April 11:52
I’ll be keeping an eye on this thread I have similar predicament.
I was going to buy a SS Submariner but recently I’m really liking the AP Royal Oak offshore after seeing it posted on here.
I’m finding myself looking at lots of pics lately on Insta.
Not sure wether to push the boat out and go big with the AP.
I was going to buy a SS Submariner but recently I’m really liking the AP Royal Oak offshore after seeing it posted on here.
I’m finding myself looking at lots of pics lately on Insta.
Not sure wether to push the boat out and go big with the AP.
PJ S said:
Pointless talking about Rolex and value retention — one’s a mass produced, market manipulated, pseudo tool watch, the other is a chic watch purporting to be sporty.
The two are at completely different levels of design & horological, and not even remotely competitors.
It’s effectively trying to draw comparisons between a single seater and a quick saloon/coupe/hatchback.
If the OP wants to go off the beaten track without spending more than necessary, then look at the Bvlgari Octo instead.
Yup, the difference between the two is vast. The two are at completely different levels of design & horological, and not even remotely competitors.
It’s effectively trying to draw comparisons between a single seater and a quick saloon/coupe/hatchback.
If the OP wants to go off the beaten track without spending more than necessary, then look at the Bvlgari Octo instead.
Who gives a s
t if Rolex hold their value better, its like comparing EasyJet with GlobalJet.I never thought of buying a Royal Oak because I always thought they were harder to get than a Daytona. I’ve always wanted a Daytona but grudge paying over list price. I tried both on yesterday and I loved them both. Pro’s & Con’s with both.
If both watches were list I would buy the Daytona at £9k but it’s £14k and the Royal Oak is £15k.
If both watches were list I would buy the Daytona at £9k but it’s £14k and the Royal Oak is £15k.
I never fancied a Royal Oak, and then suddenly I bought a standard 41 mm with a white dial. I wear it ahead of my ceramic Daytona and GMT. No idea why, for some reason I really like it, maybe because there are less AP's about.
It is a beautiful watch, and my wife who has little interest in what I have watch wise, said to me the other day, "you like that one don't you" I said that I did and she said she liked it a lot as well. Surprised she noticed it.
It is a beautiful watch, and my wife who has little interest in what I have watch wise, said to me the other day, "you like that one don't you" I said that I did and she said she liked it a lot as well. Surprised she noticed it.
Jumpingjackflash said:
Hello,
I was looking at a Royal Oak black dial 41mm. It was stunning but I don’t know enough about them. Apparently if you want a blue dial you can only buy them in a boutique.
Are the Royal Oaks hard to buy? Would the black dial be desirable. Do they hold their value?
I was comparing it to a black dial Daytona at £14k. I preferred the Royal Oak but need more information before feeling comfortable buying it.
I love the Royal Oak, but can't afford one. I own a homage which is rather nice, so if you want to try one out, it's a cheap way to do it. I bought this on Aliexpress for about £50, and it's surprisingly well made for the money. To be honest, the strap is worth more than £50. I was looking at a Royal Oak black dial 41mm. It was stunning but I don’t know enough about them. Apparently if you want a blue dial you can only buy them in a boutique.
Are the Royal Oaks hard to buy? Would the black dial be desirable. Do they hold their value?
I was comparing it to a black dial Daytona at £14k. I preferred the Royal Oak but need more information before feeling comfortable buying it.
Cipo said:
Not intending to hijack but I too have been looking at a Royal Oak but the 42mm offshore Navy with open case back. Any feedback regarding daily/weekend wear from current owners would be appreciated. Thanks!
All I can tell you from my experience wearing a homage, is that they wear very large. My ideal size is a 43mm, so was a little worried when ordering a watch that was only 41mm. To my amazement it actually wears like a 44mm watch. Although mine is a homage, I think you will find the AP is pretty much the same
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The ROOCs are a bit of a known concern – they use a Dubois–Depraz module on the base 3120 caliber, as used in the RO, and ROO Diver.
APSC always cite dry movement if asked what the problem was, but that then suggests the Swiss assemblers are actually incompetent by failing to oil & grease them, yet manage to correctly do the non-chronograph ones!
I’m surprised you had an issue 3 times with the F Piguet movement in your ROC – certainly not typical, from what I know and understand.
In respect of daily usage – they’re perfectly fine for that, but with the highly polished bezel, an extra degree of wrist awareness is definitely required.
Iirc, APSC will polish 3-4 times only, after which it’s replaced at an exchange price (not cheap!).
The ROOCs are a bit of a known concern – they use a Dubois–Depraz module on the base 3120 caliber, as used in the RO, and ROO Diver.
APSC always cite dry movement if asked what the problem was, but that then suggests the Swiss assemblers are actually incompetent by failing to oil & grease them, yet manage to correctly do the non-chronograph ones!
I’m surprised you had an issue 3 times with the F Piguet movement in your ROC – certainly not typical, from what I know and understand.
In respect of daily usage – they’re perfectly fine for that, but with the highly polished bezel, an extra degree of wrist awareness is definitely required.
Iirc, APSC will polish 3-4 times only, after which it’s replaced at an exchange price (not cheap!).
TiggerBits said:
All I can tell you from my experience wearing a homage, is that they wear very large. My ideal size is a 43mm, so was a little worried when ordering a watch that was only 41mm. To my amazement it actually wears like a 44mm watch. Although mine is a homage, I think you will find the AP is pretty much the same
Then there’s something wrong with your homage piece — the genuine wears pretty much its size, or a 42 at most.Your 44(s) must wear small, which would explain the confusion.
PJ S said:
Then there’s something wrong with your homage piece — the genuine wears pretty much its size, or a 42 at most.
Your 44(s) must wear small, which would explain the confusion.
No, I have many watches around 43mm/44mm. Of course, if one has a flat or curved wrist this can make a difference to the appearance Your 44(s) must wear small, which would explain the confusion.
TiggerBits said:
No, I have many watches around 43mm/44mm. Of course, if one has a flat or curved wrist this can make a difference to the appearance
I think you’re confusing actual watch dimensions with wrist shape/size – lug length and curvature being the major factors in what the smaller wristed person can get away with, without the watch looking like a dinner plate on a pipe cleaner.This isn’t the same as a watch whose design lends itself to looking visually bigger than its stated dimensions – a classic example is something with a thin bezel, which, in effect, leaves the watch looking like it’s all dial.
Both are a problem for a potential buyer with their heart set on it, but more so the visual illusion element – since, in all other regards, the watch is a perfect fit for their wrist shape/size.
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