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MrsMiller04

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5 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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I'm hoping someone can help. We recently inherited a 1972 MGB-GT from my father in law and we think we may have already manage to kill it! Put unleaded petrol in at the weekend - clearly that was the wrong thing to do! Please can someone advise us on what this beautiful car needs.
Thanks!

Riley Blue

22,960 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Unleaded won't kill it. Might give it mild indigestion but nothing worse. Top up with Super Unleaded next time, it'll be fine.

Cupramax

10,931 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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If you’ve only run it for a short time you won’t have killed it. You need to have the head removed and fit hardened valve seats. Easy ish job.

555 Paul

788 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Why do you think that you've killed it? Do you know if it's already been converted to run on unleaded fuel by replacing the valve seats with harder ones?

andy43

12,611 posts

278 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Mr Miller does a very good lead replacement additive smile
Bung some of that in - less than one tank of unleaded wouldn’t kill a B series surely?

jhonn

1,677 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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MrsMiller04 said:
... and we think we may have already manage to kill it!
What do you mean - will the car not start?

The use of one tank of unleaded won't cause that.

MrsMiller04

Original Poster:

5 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Ok so perhaps a little dramatic when I said killed it! Stopped for fuel, ran the car for about 15/20 mins, started to splutter in a way we have been told is similar to a wrong fuel situation and then stopped. We could get it started again but was very juddery so thought it best not to continue driving it.
I do know that Mr Miller Sr used to add something to it but.....well I wish we had been able to ask all the relevant questions before he passed away!
We have paperwork that says '1979/80 petrol tank replaced'

555 Paul

788 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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silly question, are you 100% sure it was unleaded and not diesel that you put in there? It'll still run on unleaded.

Cupramax

10,931 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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As above the additive is a lead replacement, long term if your going to keep it get the valve seats done then you won’t have to worry. If it’s running badly you’ll probably need to get the head off anyway so you might as well do the valve seats then.

Limpet

6,599 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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For now, chuck a lead replacement and octane booster supplement in the tank and she will be fine.

Something like this:

https://www.classic-oils.net/Valvemaster-Plus

MrsMiller04

Original Poster:

5 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Yes definitely unleaded. But the premium kind.

gforceg

3,525 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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If it hasn't been run for a while could there be water on the fuel which got stirred up when it was topped up?

jhonn

1,677 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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If it hasn't been used for a long time it's possible that filling it with fuel has disturbed debris in the tank which has fed through to the carbs and is causing the rough running.

Does it have a fuel filter on it - maybe an in-line or cartridge type? If you can, check that for signs of contamination/water.
Next stop would be to remove the float bowls of the carbs and have a look inside. Although unlikely, check the air filter too.

An engine needs spark, air, fuel and compression to fire, so it'll be a case of elimination - it's more than likely a fuel issue though, but the fact that you used unleaded won't be the cause of the problem.


MrsMiller04

Original Poster:

5 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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It's actually been run quite a bit recently. We drove it home from my in laws - an hours journey. And my husband has been taking it out once a week for a run around. I'm fairly certain we should have added something in with the fuel but we don't know what and we don't know whether we should have the engine flushed.

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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MrsMiller04 said:
Ok so perhaps a little dramatic when I said killed it! Stopped for fuel, ran the car for about 15/20 mins, started to splutter in a way we have been told is similar to a wrong fuel situation and then stopped. We could get it started again but was very juddery so thought it best not to continue driving it.
It's very unlikely that you've done any damage to the engine in such a short time and I think comments about taking the heads off and replacing valve seats are leading you in completely the wrong direction.

You probably have either a fuel blockage, or an ignition fault. A competent mechanic should have no trouble taking the plugs out to tell you whether the misfire is due to lack of fuel or lack of spark. The fact the car initially ran OK would make me suspect the fuel supply first, but they're both plausible explanations for those symptoms and should both be straight forward to fix.

stevieturbo

17,970 posts

271 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Unless you've filled it with diesel, heating oil, water etc....then fuel is not the problem here.

A fault has occurred, it just needs fixed.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,838 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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scratchchin Haven't a lot of MGs been adjusted to run unleaded by now? (i.e. what makes you think unleaded is the wrong flavour?)

burnsdavies

64 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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This sounds as though it's an ignition problem on my classic when the rota arm in the distributer is failing it gives the same symptoms I have had rota arms fail in less then 300 miles check for a good spark at the spark plugs

paintman

7,852 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Sounds like time for a Haynes manual & some basic tools!

Many call the Haynes manuals but I've been buying them for years for all our cars & see far too many on the shelves of smaller garages to take much notice of the nay-sayers - although some of the humorous threads are very funny.
I can say that as far as the ones I've got are concerned many of the pics, line drawings & instructions are straight lifts from the factory workshop manuals but with alternatives and/or workarounds where the factory one specifies a particular service tool.
They will give you a trouble shooting work through to follow.

This may be worth a read:
http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/ignitiontext.htm

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

133 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Is it a leaded or an unleaded car - That is the question and only you can check up on this before delving any deeper with the bad running