shrinkage/sinkage lines after respray
shrinkage/sinkage lines after respray
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designforlife

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3,742 posts

183 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Recently had a full respray and after the recent hot weather a few sinkage/shrinkage lines have appeared on an area of the car where filler was used. The lines follow the edges of the filler repair, you can't feel the ridge and it takes some spotting, but as it's on the roof at eyeline it's one of those things you just can't unsee once you spot it.

Car is going back to the bodyshop who are being excellent about sorting it asap.

For my own curiousity - would affected panels (the roof in this instance), need repainting, or can sinkage lines be rubbed back and polished without needing more paint?

It's an otherwise excellent paint job by a very well regarded paint shop, so i'm not overly concerned, but will feel more comfortable knowing it is getting a cut and polish rather than further paint. (this is the second respray as the first paint shop royally messed it up).







Edited by designforlife on Wednesday 25th April 14:21

Squiggs

1,520 posts

175 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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The short answer is not the one you want to hear.
It sounds like the filler has sunk/shrunk and the only fix is sanding it back and re-spraying.

V8covin

9,025 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Squiggs said:
The short answer is not the one you want to hear.
It sounds like the filler has sunk/shrunk and the only fix is sanding it back and re-spraying.
That just isn't true.
Fresh paint sometimes sinks back around primer repairs after a few weeks or months...even when there's no filler involved....and is easily fixed with a flat and polish.



Squiggs

1,520 posts

175 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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V8covin said:
Squiggs said:
The short answer is not the one you want to hear.
It sounds like the filler has sunk/shrunk and the only fix is sanding it back and re-spraying.
That just isn't true.
Fresh paint sometimes sinks back around primer repairs after a few weeks or months...even when there's no filler involved....and is easily fixed with a flat and polish.
You what?
Too much thinners?



Edited by Squiggs on Wednesday 25th April 23:58

227bhp

10,203 posts

148 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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It's down to how severe it is and how thick the paint is if it'll buff or flat out or not. It's caused mainly by the need for fast turnover and not enough time for the filler or paint to dry and shrink back.

designforlife

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3,742 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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it's going back today all being well so i will find out how they intend to rectify it.

Is it common to see shrinkage 4 or 5 weeks after paint? Clearly that unseasonably hot few days was a big factor in triggering it.

All a little close to japfest for my liking, but they assure me they'll have it rectified in time.

One other question - the fresh lacquer is being pretty well attacked by the pollen that's accompanied this hotter weather, a few water spots have etched the lacquer already (not at paint level).

While these will polish out, is it usual for fresh lacquer to be so delicate? I know pollen can be pretty acidic and horrible stuff when mixed with rain.


V8covin

9,025 posts

213 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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You have to understand every layer of material....bodyfiller,etch primer,primer filler,sealer,basecoat,clear ....has its own curing time.
Conventional oven baking cures from the outside in so it may appear fully hardened but isn't really and when you get a new heat source....like you did withe a period of hot weather....that can accelerate the process ,solvents are released and shrinkage occurs.
It's more common on bonnets because of heat from the engine.....and it's more likely to be the primer shrinking than bodyfiller.
Ideally paint should be left a few months before polishing to fully cure....when I say polishing I actually mean flatting the clear with 1200 grit or finer and then compounding with a machine polisher....but no one wants to wait do they,so fresh paint gets polished within hours or the next day usually

designforlife

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3,742 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Car is back with the shop now.

The reckon the spoiler needs taking all the way back to plastic and repainting, old paint causing issues with the new.

Everything else they're happy will flat and polish out.


Tayl0r

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89 months

Saturday 20th November 2021
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Hey this is a huge bump but did this ever get sorted? And did it just flat and polish out?