996 GT3 RS - Appreciation...
996 GT3 RS - Appreciation...
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Jim1556

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1,838 posts

184 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Just perusing through an old GTPorsche and chanced upon Paragon's ad - top left is this beauty:



Contrast that with the one currently at JZM (£159,900)!!!

I'd forgotten just how much these things had risen, and also just how much of a bargain they once were!

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

224 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I was such a tight arse that I refused to deal on one at £49k as I insisted I would buy at £47k!

EGTE

997 posts

210 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I really appreciate the 996 GT RS.

CocoUK

1,065 posts

210 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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My dream car, absolute #1.
Has everything I desire from a car, perfection.


A PH Market Watch article from just a few years ago echoing the values above .


Unfortunately, cost of entry has moved from possibility to unlikely, I'll never get to enjoy my own.
I hope most are with custodians who appreciate more than just finances... *sigh*

CocoUK

1,065 posts

210 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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There is no substitute

stigmeister

70 posts

196 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I was such a tight arse that I refused to deal on one at £49k as I insisted I would buy at £47k!
I remember the one that was for sale on here a few years ago for ages (I think at MR 911) at £47k’ish. A great many people made lots of comments about it and pontificated endlessly but nobody would buy it because it was too cheap!!!
Go figure.

Jumpingjackflash

686 posts

207 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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I have just browsed the classifieds and I am genuinely surprised at how many GT3’s are for sale.Especially the 996 GT3. My 996 has been for sale for nearly a year with a dealer and I know mine was a mint car.

Maybe the bankers know something we don’t again?? 😂

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

293 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Nice in the garage, not so nice to drive imo, todays roads and the 996 GT3 RS don't work together.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 29th April 09:29

lemmingjames

7,983 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Jumpingjackflash said:
I have just browsed the classifieds and I am genuinely surprised at how many GT3’s are for sale.Especially the 996 GT3. My 996 has been for sale for nearly a year with a dealer and I know mine was a mint car.

Maybe the bankers know something we don’t again?? ??
Its not the latest and greatest and it only appeals to a select few individuals who want to work a car or have a car work them = enjoyment for a select minority but a ball ache to others who want supple and trick suspension, a 'manual' that has electronics working in the background that allows them to flat shift etc.

Apparently theres (roughly 33) for sale out of 319 (if you include all of the 2005 regs) = 10% of the cars which is no different to the later iterations of GT cars (not sure if we can include the GT4 as its a parts bin special).

Unfortunately more are becoming SORN but then its also been a stty winter and some just tax on a monthly/6 month basis

lemmingjames

7,983 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Porsche911R said:
Nice in the garage, not so nice to drive imo, todays roads and the 996 GT3 RS don't work together.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 29th April 09:29
Yes we get it, you detest the 996 GT3 of any iteration. How about you just dont comment on this thread or any 996 GT3 thread as its about people sharing positive comments/thoughts/feelings/experiences/joy instead of negativity that follows you around.

lemmingjames

7,983 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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stigmeister said:
I remember the one that was for sale on here a few years ago for ages (I think at MR 911) at £47k’ish. A great many people made lots of comments about it and pontificated endlessly but nobody would buy it because it was too cheap!!!
Go figure.
What about the Parr development car that nobody wanted until someone on here brought it - once that sold it seemed to be overnight that the prices just rocketed.


blackmamba

833 posts

264 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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lemmingjames said:
Porsche911R said:
Nice in the garage, not so nice to drive imo, todays roads and the 996 GT3 RS don't work together.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 29th April 09:29
Yes we get it, you detest the 996 GT3 of any iteration. How about you just dont comment on this thread or any 996 GT3 thread as its about people sharing positive comments/thoughts/feelings/experiences/joy instead of negativity that follows you around.
He made a very reasonable comment and said it was his opinion - no need to jump down his throat just because you don’t like what he says. His view is as valid as anyone else’s.

I had a 996.2 GT3 and loved it. Was great on the right road at he right time but suspension compliance wasn’t it’s strong suit.

Phooey

13,737 posts

197 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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It's never really done anything for me. I get that some people like the raw drive of them, but it's not a pretty car like say a 997 and although it's about the drive and not the looks... to me it needs to look as good as it goes. It's maybe a tad too hardcore for me too - the 997.2 GT3 was about the limit I'd want to go to for driving on the road.

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

259 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Still The best GT3 in my opinion. One of the very best cars that I have ever driven. Definitely the best 911. The closest experience you will get to driving a GT race car on the road. Such an engaging and rewarding drive

A Pure driving machine. Once the market works it out, they will be even more rediculously priced.

Such a shame so few will end up being driven as intended.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

293 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Steve Rance said:
Still The best GT3 in my opinion. One of the very best cars that I have ever driven. Definitely the best 911. The closest experience you will get to driving a GT race car on the road. Such an engaging and rewarding drive

A Pure driving machine. Once the market works it out, they will be even more rediculously priced.

Such a shame so few will end up being driven as intended.
I cannot think of anything more annoying than driving a race car on the road.
The 2 just don't go hand in hand.
But yes agree on track great but at this years RS day I did not see a 996 GT3 RS or a 997 RS.
So the cars are not being used.

EGTE

997 posts

210 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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What I like about this forum is that both of you guys are right and I value your comments.

Steve's because of his experience; 911R's because of his. Always good to hear good and bad news, before buying.

I still really would love a 996 GT3 RS (even though I'm probably too poncy to suffer the stock suspension....but that can be sorted), though I think they're ridiculously priced already, but that's only because I cannot justify the cost to my missus :-).

browngt3

1,433 posts

239 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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I loved my 996GT3. But it's no where near as good a road car as my new one.

This is where the real progress has been made, in making a track car useable on the road.

I agree with the post above that the original is a special car and one of the great Porsches but it is a one trick pony.

Cheib

25,332 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Andrew Frankel on the different generations of RS

https://www.goodwood.com/grrc/columnists/andrew-fr...


LaSource

2,641 posts

236 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Think these 'my car is better than your car' comparisons sort of miss the point and just fuel emotional ping pong on forums.

All the variants are great and have slightly different focus. Some are great for the road, some for the track, some a good balance of both. Some cheap, some expensive, some useable, some collectible, some less rare, some more rare.

The 996RS was a true homologation car (for the RSR - don't think any of the other RS did that) and yes, focused as a track car. It is not 'bad' on the road or awful....but yes, most of the other variants are more comfy on the road.

The 996RS is also a more purer drive - no electronics, no rear brake assistance, proper diff, etc...and a unique car to own from a collectability perspective - lightweight / carbon fibre parts, the rarest of the models next to the 4.0RS, not sold worldwide, etc. Colour scheme harking back to the 2.7RS

For those looking for a comfy road car, this may not be the best choice. For those looking for a pure track slag, a 996 GT3 may be a more appropriate start point. However for those looking for a balance of the unique 996GT3 analogue driving experience in a collectable package that is an event to own and very likely will continue to appreciate in the future, perhaps someone with other cars in the stable for that comfy road journey, for those the 996RS is very attractive, imho.



isaldiri

24,520 posts

196 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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LaSource said:
The 996RS was a true homologation car (for the RSR - don't think any of the other RS did that) and yes, focused as a track car.
The 4.0rs I think (not 100% sure though) was required to homologate the 4 litre engine in the RSR. The 6rs though is undoubtedly the purer car for sure.