Do I need rubber pads to jack up my car?
Do I need rubber pads to jack up my car?
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IDontKnowCars

Original Poster:

172 posts

141 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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I have just bought my first trolley jack, stands, and chocks. i thought this was everything I need but saw a comment online saying to never use the trolley jack on its own without also buying a rubber pad to prevent damage to the jacking point from the hard metal surface of the jack. Is this correct?

vikingaero

13,508 posts

200 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Depends on the car. It's better to have one, especially if jacking on a slot, then buy a slotted puck. BMW/MINIs have a rectangular block. eBay is your friend.

thebraketester

15,835 posts

169 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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If you buy that style of jack then you don’t need anything else.

If you bought one with a metal cup then you bought the wrong jack. :-(

Triumph Man

9,641 posts

199 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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I use a block of wood

kambites

71,672 posts

252 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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yes A block of wood (or rubber) cut to the correct profile will be better than a generic flat rubber pad.

Steve91

540 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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I use a rubber pad with a slot cut in it. Looks a bit like a hockey puck. No idea where I got it, but I wouldn't use anything else.

frisbee

5,632 posts

141 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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thebraketester said:
If you buy that style of jack then you don’t need anything else.

If you bought one with a metal cup then you bought the wrong jack. :-(
Yes you do. You'll fold the seam at the jacking point on the sill over if you use that jack without some sort of block with a slot.

ToothbrushMan

1,772 posts

156 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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especially on a car thats getting on a bitin years........itd take a lot of jackings to start to bend the sill or flitch joint on a new car but prevention and all that.................

selym

9,581 posts

202 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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The rim around the cup is steel (or whatever) and will flatten the seams on the sill which will damage the surface and rust will be next on the list.
I've used hockey pucks, wood etc to good effect, but it's easier/safer to jack under the car on the recommended points of the chassis.

thebraketester

15,835 posts

169 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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frisbee said:
thebraketester said:
If you buy that style of jack then you don’t need anything else.

If you bought one with a metal cup then you bought the wrong jack. :-(
Yes you do. You'll fold the seam at the jacking point on the sill over if you use that jack without some sort of block with a slot.
Nah. Unless your car is made from cheese or weight 10tons. I’ve had mine up loads of times and never had an issue.

motco

17,662 posts

277 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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selym said:
The rim around the cup is steel (or whatever) and will flatten the seams on the sill which will damage the surface and rust will be next on the list.
I've used hockey pucks, wood etc to good effect, but it's easier/safer to jack under the car on the recommended points of the chassis.
It's paint film damage and consequent rust that worries me too. It's all very well to say use chassis members but no mass produced modern car has a chassis as such, and none of my cars of the last two decades have more than four recommended jacking points and these are commonly the welded seams on the cills as previously discussed. One of our family's cars, and I cannot now find out which, specifically forbade jacking on the diff casing. A block of wood is a good idea if rubber blocks aren't available. On cills, though, they can tilt and render the whole procedure risky. A groove is ideal.

I have ramps that can be raised and I can lift the car to where it's required and then lower it on to cushioned axle stands under the recommended jacking points. It is a faff though.



steveo3002

11,240 posts

205 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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anything between the jack pad and metal helps , i cut up an old rubber car matt and use that , or a bit of wood or carpet would work too

once its jacked up and wheels off...store the wheels under the car near where you are working , that way if the stands fail or it tips over the wheels stop it killing you

Moviestar

72 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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I would say yes based on the state of my Jacking points with using Aluminium blocks to jack



Now use rubber ones:



Got some from this guy:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/trolleyjackingpads

Hope that helps

blueg33

46,871 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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I had an old ice hockey puck that I use as a jack pad.

pfnsht

2,569 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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I use a hockey put on my jack and stands. Perfect groove pre-cut for the sill and very cheap too.

Love the setup on the Jag above, I hate jacking each side separately to get it up in the air and would never get it that high on the stands with a trolley jack alone. I would love a lift that gets the whole car up one day.

Moviestar

72 posts

161 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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pfnsht said:
I use a hockey put on my jack and stands. Perfect groove pre-cut for the sill and very cheap too.

Love the setup on the Jag above, I hate jacking each side separately to get it up in the air and would never get it that high on the stands with a trolley jack alone. I would love a lift that gets the whole car up one day.
Yep have to get me some of those ramps they look great

Edited by Moviestar on Sunday 6th January 15:48

GliderRider

2,936 posts

112 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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I use wood with the grain at right angles to the line of the sill, or a pad folded from the thick card that comes around slabs of cans or bottles of beer. Anything which keeps the metal of the jack away from the paint on the sill is good.

Beware with blocks of wood on top of trolley jacks. As the trolley jack has to move as the car is lifted, the car can topple off the block. If you have the height, use a bottle jack.

Also if the grain of the wood is in line with the sill, or its is an easily split soft wood used end grain on, the sill can split a block.




motco

17,662 posts

277 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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GliderRider said:
I use wood with the grain at right angles to the line of the sill, or a pad folded from the thick card that comes around slabs of cans or bottles of beer. Anything which keeps the metal of the jack away from the paint on the sill is good.

Beware with blocks of wood on top of trolley jacks. As the trolley jack has to move as the car is lifted, the car can topple off the block. If you have the height, use a bottle jack.

Also if the grain of the wood is in line with the sill, or its is an easily split soft wood used end grain on, the sill can split a block.
Trouble is that if you use beer cartons you have to drink the beer and after that you don't give a toss! biggrin

GliderRider

2,936 posts

112 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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motco said:
Trouble is that if you use beer cartons you have to drink the beer and after that you don't give a toss! biggrin
...and the problem with that is??? beer


motco

17,662 posts

277 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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GliderRider said:
motco said:
Trouble is that if you use beer cartons you have to drink the beer and after that you don't give a toss! biggrin
...and the problem with that is??? beer
I see none! Just thought the OP ought to be aware of the risks that arise from using beer cartons when there are only cartons with beer cans in. smile