Is any information stored on reg plates/cars themselves
Is any information stored on reg plates/cars themselves
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EazyDuz

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2,013 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Reason I ask is someone in my family recently purchased a used car. They've never been randomly pulled over and have been driving for over 20 years, however since getting the car they've been pulled 4 times in the space of 6 weeks, all 'routine' stops. He thinks that the previous owner of the car may have been banned for something serious like speeding too many times or drink driving and now the car reg is stored on the system as suspect car.
Is there any truth in this or just coincidence? Doesnt seem fair if true.

Shaw Tarse

31,890 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Drugs

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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You can get information reports on the PNC relating to vehicles/VRMs & local intelligence indices.
Information should be weeded when no longer current.

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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EazyDuz said:
Reason I ask is someone in my family recently purchased a used car. They've never been randomly pulled over and have been driving for over 20 years, however since getting the car they've been pulled 4 times in the space of 6 weeks, all 'routine' stops. He thinks that the previous owner of the car may have been banned for something serious like speeding too many times or drink driving and now the car reg is stored on the system as suspect car.
Is there any truth in this or just coincidence? Doesnt seem fair if true.
Of course information can be stored, your relative should contact his local force and explain that he’s bought the car and ask them to remove any marker. How quickly they’ll do it is likely to be a bit vague.

I have to ask though, what’s not “fair”about it? That last sentence in your post reads like you’re a bit offended by things.

EazyDuz

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2,013 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Gavia said:
Of course information can be stored, your relative should contact his local force and explain that he’s bought the car and ask them to remove any marker. How quickly they’ll do it is likely to be a bit vague.

I have to ask though, what’s not “fair”about it? That last sentence in your post reads like you’re a bit offended by things.
Because if I bought a car with a 'history', I wouldn't appreciate being pulled over more often than normal. It should take one pull over for them to realise that the car is under new ownership

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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EazyDuz said:
Because if I bought a car with a 'history', I wouldn't appreciate being pulled over more often than normal. It should take one pull over for them to realise that the car is under new ownership
Has he informed them with evidence? Or is he just hoping that the police have just taken his word for it, after all drug dealers and other low life’s have never lied to the police have they.

Medic-one

3,143 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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A month or so after i bought my first GTO i drove past an ANPR van on the local A road here, and within minutes i had 3 interceptors (those from the tv show) around me who then boxed me in and stopped me in the middle of this dual carriageway.

Fortunately one of them recognised me from the day before (where we done a job together) and realised i wasn't the guy they were looking for, and asked me to follow to nearby petrol station to sort it all out.

Turns out that the guy i bought the car of had now lost his licence and failed to appear in court for something else, and on the system that car (now my car) was still linked to him, eventhough i had the new V5 in my name etc back weeks ago. They said on the roadside they would change it on the system and had no more problems after that.

EazyDuz

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2,013 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Medic-one said:
A month or so after i bought my first GTO i drove past an ANPR van on the local A road here, and within minutes i had 3 interceptors (those from the tv show) around me who then boxed me in and stopped me in the middle of this dual carriageway.

Fortunately one of them recognised me from the day before (where we done a job together) and realised i wasn't the guy they were looking for, and asked me to follow to nearby petrol station to sort it all out.

Turns out that the guy i bought the car of had now lost his licence and failed to appear in court for something else, and on the system that car (now my car) was still linked to him, eventhough i had the new V5 in my name etc back weeks ago. They said on the roadside they would change it on the system and had no more problems after that.
Wow, did the guy you bought it off not tell you the reason for sale? Did he seem a bit dodgy to you?

cmvtec

2,188 posts

111 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I've had this too when I bought a W124 Mercedes from someone less than legit. 8 stops in two weeks tipped me over the edge and I went to my local police station and asked if the marker could be removed from my car.

I was informed it was a different force who'd put the marker on the vehicle and it may take some time before I stopped getting random pulls.

Medic-one

3,143 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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EazyDuz said:
Wow, did the guy you bought it off not tell you the reason for sale? Did he seem a bit dodgy to you?
No, not at all. He seemed a nice guy, both via email and when i met him in person.

Was shown the car outside his adress, went for testdrive, I came back the next day (by train) to collect the car, signed all the documents in his flat (which matched the V5) which was a nice flat in a nice area, so i was really suprised by all that.

andburg

8,743 posts

199 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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You can appreciate why the markers remain otherwise crims would just change registered keeper all the time to avoid plod

EazyDuz

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2,013 posts

138 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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andburg said:
You can appreciate why the markers remain otherwise crims would just change registered keeper all the time to avoid plod
A custom reg is £270

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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EazyDuz said:
andburg said:
You can appreciate why the markers remain otherwise crims would just change registered keeper all the time to avoid plod
A custom reg is £270
Reg changes will be linked to same report/VIN.

EazyDuz

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138 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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vonhosen said:
Reg changes will be linked to same report/VIN.
Thats only if the relevant police force uses the DVLA which AFAIK not all do

Bigends

6,168 posts

158 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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The stopping officers should be contacting the officer placing the marker which is the whole idea of it being placed. If they're satisfied it has genuinely changed hands then the marker should be removed. If somebody gets hurt as a result of the marker being unnecessarily in place then someone will have some awkward questions to answer

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

257 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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EazyDuz said:
vonhosen said:
Reg changes will be linked to same report/VIN.
Thats only if the relevant police force uses the DVLA which AFAIK not all do
Really? Who do others use?

EazyDuz

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Saturday 5th May 2018
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AdeTuono said:
Really? Who do others use?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/5307874/why-your-car-is-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-cops-and-it-depends-where-you-live/

Police have processes in place for "weeding out" old markers, with some forces even linking their systems to DVLA records.

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

257 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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EazyDuz said:
AdeTuono said:
Really? Who do others use?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/5307874/why-your-car-is-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-cops-and-it-depends-where-you-live/

Police have processes in place for "weeding out" old markers, with some forces even linking their systems to DVLA records.
Ah! I see!! The Sun, quoting an Auto Express article. Well, that must be accurate then.

Who else do you think the Police contact for registration details?

EazyDuz

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138 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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AdeTuono said:
Ah! I see!! The Sun, quoting an Auto Express article. Well, that must be accurate then.

Who else do you think the Police contact for registration details?
Its a more reliable source than some guy on PH, who's members are notorious for being absolute know(eff)alls

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

257 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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EazyDuz said:
AdeTuono said:
Ah! I see!! The Sun, quoting an Auto Express article. Well, that must be accurate then.

Who else do you think the Police contact for registration details?
Its a more reliable source than some guy on PH, who's members are notorious for being absolute know(eff)alls
Are you going to answer my question, or just continue blithely believing some gumph you read in The Sun?