Will N/A & manual 991.1 hold its value better than PDK?
Will N/A & manual 991.1 hold its value better than PDK?
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Montcoffer

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247 posts

222 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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Falling in love with my 991.1 C2 Black Edition has been a slow burner if I'm honest despite it being my dream car before I had it, but strangely the rarer N/A engine's with manual gearbox become the more it's appeal grows.
Holding its value more than a PDK was of interest as I was considering selling, but at present because of the spring weather its back in use & I'm enjoying driving more & more having to work harder for the performance is great fun again.
For me as a road car a N/A engine with manual gearbox wins hands down for fun over a PDK & especially a turbo car.

Swimfinz

315 posts

136 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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Short answer— yes....

Unless a GT car, N/A Porsches are now an extinct breed.... And the manuals are gradually going the same way..... Just try and find a 991.1 manual GTS in the classifieds..... Any that do appear are either significantly more expensive than their PDK counterparts, or sold within hours.... wink

Having said that: I’m a super-firm believer in driving what you love, rather than holding onto a car for “investment” purposes.... Nearly all cars will depreciate with time, and the 991.1 will be no exception.... Keep it because you love it, not for any other reason— who knows, the bottom might soon fall out of the financial market, and then ALL cars will drop like a stone....!! For me: a manual, N/A Porsche is driving nirvana, and I won’t be moving mine on for anything less (apart from possibly a GT3-RS..... wink )

Twinfan

10,125 posts

132 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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I think in the short term I don't think there will be a lot of difference in pricing between a Spanish or PDK gearbox. In the medium to long term I personally believe that the last of the line NA and manual gearbox combination cars will be sought after as internal combustion engine cars start to become extinct. Whether that means the 991.1 or the 997.2 who knows, there are pros and cons to each generation. Similarly for the 987.2 and 981 series Caysters.

Manuals are are on 9x1 series cars so they have the potential to hold value very well if the market demands them.

Phooey

13,737 posts

197 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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PDK will eventually be outdated by a newer, faster, better, transmission. Manual is what it is. However, non-GT 991's seem to take a while to sell and as a result are cheaper - the market values the 991 higher in PDK. I think a lot comes down to the overall spec of the car rather than simply what gearbox it has, for eg - 997 C2s in manual are now very sought after whereas the 997 C4s is generally more sought after in PDK.

kev.RS

215 posts

235 months

Friday 4th May 2018
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I think the fact that they went 7 speed scared a lot of people off and still has a mixed opinion hence why cars are cheaper and priced lower.
The new ‘T’ and GTS seem to have made the manual more acceptable and wouldn’t be surprised if there is a higher demand over the next few years.
I think that when something new comes along that people haven’t used or understand they simply say it is rubbish which then puts other people off.
I think it was OPC Leeds who had a 13 plate manual 4s Coupe in Sapphire with power kit and ceramics for £67,995 which I thought was amazing value but just priced cheaper because it was manual so imho was a good investment for whoever bought it.

Montcoffer

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247 posts

222 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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I did find the 7 speed takes a little getting used too especially compared to my wifes 5 speed Cayman, just to many gates to get wrong when changing down, however time & practice helps & now its very slick & a joy to use, ignoring 7th other than for motorway cruises helps.

Montcoffer

Original Poster:

247 posts

222 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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They are big but they soon shrink around you & when cruising they are insulated which I find is a good thing, but if you spec the sports exhaust and give it the beans it sounds & feels proper raw.

Milnsey

252 posts

248 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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Manual less likely to go wrong and also cheaper to fix if it does

rosino

1,395 posts

200 months

Saturday 5th May 2018
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The prices of 991.1 manual or pdk have been remarkably firm in the last few years already. Porsche specialists might even admit that the 991.2 is the car you don't want to like but end up liking... but people still seem to want their last n/a non-GT cars.. GTS model is most desirable but let's not forget it's simply a parts-bin special, so a decently specc'ed Carrera S will do the job just fine especially if one of the latter model years as things had improved quite a bit since early cars (I know b/c I had one of the launch cars and it was nowhere near as good as the latter ones..).

So yes I think you could buy n/a and lose less in depreciation than you would on one the 991.2 part b/c they older anyways by now and part b/c the n/a will always appeal and they are fast enough already, especially on these awfully congested, battered, narrow and policed roads we have to deal with in most of this Country..