Losing a belly
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Z064life

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1,926 posts

277 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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Hi Guys,
I currently have a bit of a stomach and would like to lose it, by making lifestyle/diet changes and exercise.

I also have IBS which I read can cause a bigger stomach but I had this problem before my diagnosis of IBS.

Some of the things I am now enforcing on the lifestyle and diet side of things are:

- I don't go for seconds on a meal
- I am eating smaller meals at home/work. Nothing that would make me feel lethargic
- Given up coke/fizzy drinks

I don't drink so can't blame that as a cause lol and I don't smoke.

What exercises are recommended?

boxst

3,806 posts

174 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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Depending on how overweight you actually are, I just lost 15kg in a couple of months by cutting out all carbs (potatoes, rice, pasta, lots of processed food, dairy, beer etc..) and changing to more or less a Paleo or Keto diet. I was 90kg ('obese' in the NHS range) and am now a healthy weight. Still at the top of the scale at heathy, so will aim to lose some more.

I don't miss things that much, and have a new found interest in cooking with cauliflower pizza bases, bread from egg/almond flour and celeriac mash.

(there is another thread on here as to why I did this: Diabetes Type 2 diagnosis)



Crumpet

5,385 posts

209 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Another Low-Carb / Keto fan here! 20kg dropped in about 4 months on Keto and another 4 months of maintaining it with general Low Carb and a slightly more active lifestyle.

The best thing is that endless pounding of the treadmill is not required (although you should always exercise for general health anyway)! It’s not for everyone and I’m not sure how well it goes with IBS - you’d have to look into that.

There’s a Keto thread in health and fitness if you’re interested.

Sensei Rob

313 posts

108 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Z064life said:
Hi Guys,
I currently have a bit of a stomach and would like to lose it, by making lifestyle/diet changes and exercise.

I also have IBS which I read can cause a bigger stomach but I had this problem before my diagnosis of IBS.

Some of the things I am now enforcing on the lifestyle and diet side of things are:

- I don't go for seconds on a meal
- I am eating smaller meals at home/work. Nothing that would make me feel lethargic
- Given up coke/fizzy drinks

I don't drink so can't blame that as a cause lol and I don't smoke.

What exercises are recommended?
Hi,

First of all, assuming you've only recently developed IBS, it's usually doctor talk for "I don't know what's caused this". Ultimately, you either have a viral, bacterial, parasitic or fungal infection. Therefore, 4 courses of action could technically rid you of the disease, but at the same time, depending on how long you've had it, the actual recovery time could be long. E.g. if you've had IBS for a year, it could take a couple of years to recover fully even after the pathogen is gone.

If it's a lifelong illness, ignore the above.

One thing you can do is go to the doctor, tell the doc you got giardia whilst on holiday, and it seems to have reoccurred. If you're lucky, you'll get some metronidazole. If that doesn't work, go for an antibiotic and so on....best of luck.

But anyway, regarding the belly. You can't spot reduce fat, as in get rid of the belly fat and keep everything else the same. You need to get rid of almost all the fat. There are many ways you can do this, but if you want fast results, do this:

1 meal a day. Try to keep the calories around 1000 or so.
Workout every other day. 40 minutes weights followed by 40 minutes of cardio.

If you do this, you'll see results within a week and significant results over a month.

Good luck!

ambuletz

11,749 posts

210 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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As usual the only way to lose fat is

- consumer fewer calories than you burn.
- you can't spot reduce fat. your body will lose fat all over, just possibly at different rates.

As for exercises.. just try any and everything, just move yourself more. you'll eventually find what exercises works for you or you enjoy and can do consistently as losing/gaining weight is about consistency, and of course all the exercise in the world isn't going to matter if you're not still in a calorie defict by the end of the day.

There's no need to overthink it. Eat less move more.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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You lose weight in the kitchen. You get fit in the gym.

Don't drop your calorie intake to 1000 - you'll trigger starvation measures, where the body burns muscle to conserve fat!

Keto is much more effective. If you want to know why, read some books:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-We-Get-Fat-About-eboo...
Or just do it because it works; you'll find plenty of advice online or in the Keto thread here.

If you are gluten intolerant the IBS could even vanish along with the belly.

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

129 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Slimming World is great, i lost quite a lot of weight on the diet. You can still have treats in controlled measures and many of the meals are very decent. I found the rules manifest themselves in a low fat, low sugar diet. Its pretty common sense to be honest in terms of you can have unlimited fruit, vegetables and lean meat but restricted fatty or sugary foods. If you haven't done any dieting before it just gives you an easy plan to follow. I didn't go to any meetings, just subscribed to the online membership. As you don't drink, you will be able to have quite a lot of "treats" at the weekend if you follow it religiously during the week. As with any diet, the trick is keeping the weight off long term. Try and get into some sport as it will mean that if you stop dieting further down the line, the exercise may help you maintain your weight. Good luck.

popeyewhite

23,014 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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grumbledoak said:
You lose weight in the kitchen. You get fit in the gym.
Not this again! It doesn't matter whether the calorie deficit occurs through food or exercise. Both is best but exercise is the more important of the two.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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popeyewhite said:
Not this again! It doesn't matter whether the calorie deficit occurs through food or exercise. Both is best but exercise is the more important of the two.
No. It isn't. Exercise has many benefits, but for weight loss diet is 80% of the battle.

MC Bodge

29,625 posts

204 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Exercises?

Start by moving around whenever you can.

Walk or cycle to work, even if it is only part-way. Get off public transport early and walk the rest of the way.

Walk (or run or do some sort of fitness/training session) at lunchtime.

Use stairs instead of lifts or escalators

Park at the far end of a car park.

Walk to the shops. Carry the heavy bags home.

Do your own gardening... if you have a garden.

Go for a walk or a bike ride at the weekend.

Do the local Parkrun

Climb a mountain.

popeyewhite

23,014 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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grumbledoak said:
popeyewhite said:
Not this again! It doesn't matter whether the calorie deficit occurs through food or exercise. Both is best but exercise is the more important of the two.
No. It isn't. Exercise has many benefits, but for weight loss diet is 80% of the battle.
Actually it's about 52/48 exercise/diet. Think you could do a bit more reading hehe

ambuletz

11,749 posts

210 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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grumbledoak said:
popeyewhite said:
Not this again! It doesn't matter whether the calorie deficit occurs through food or exercise. Both is best but exercise is the more important of the two.
No. It isn't. Exercise has many benefits, but for weight loss diet is 80% of the battle.
I think what he's trying to say is that from a fitness, health and body composition standpoint you're better off eating more food and exercising (whilst maintaining a deficit) than you are eating less and not exercising and having a calorie deficit.




grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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ambuletz said:
I think what he's trying to say is that from a fitness, health and body composition standpoint you're better off eating more food and exercising (whilst maintaining a deficit) than you are eating less and not exercising and having a calorie deficit.
He is pushing the same crap that has half the country obese or diabetic - "Calories in, calories out". It is plain wrong. Profitably so, though, for many.


popeyewhite

23,014 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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grumbledoak said:
ambuletz said:
I think what he's trying to say is that from a fitness, health and body composition standpoint you're better off eating more food and exercising (whilst maintaining a deficit) than you are eating less and not exercising and having a calorie deficit.
He is pushing the same crap that has half the country obese or diabetic - "Calories in, calories out". It is plain wrong. Profitably so, though, for many.
Now that's not very nice grumbleoak. You could honestly try to be a little bit more open to the opinions of others, after all, you're not qualified in the field of health and exercise to the tiniest degree, are you? As it happens you are completely wrong concerning my approach. Exercise in the long-term has a raft more benefits for getting and keeping weight off than just a diet does. These are psychological (motivation, self-confidence, self-efficacy), health (prevent disease, increase longevity, improve your sex life), fitness (increased lung capacity, lean mass, capillerisation etc), mental health (exercise helps fight depression, is good for stress, anxiety and improves memory); and, as all these factors interact and increase a person is actually more likely to want to continue to keep the weight off and eat a balanced diet. It's called a healthy lifestyle, and it works. Millions of people who partake in regular exercise have healthy lifestyles, very few count calories, most just eat healthily. Of course there are a few people for whom even the thought of exercising makes them nauseous and I'm guessing you're one of them. And for them, sadly, maybe it is the hard mental slog of a crash diet, but it needn't be. Exercise offers so much more... .

Wacky Racer

41,285 posts

276 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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You don't need to go on a diet as such.

Two words. Portion sizes.

You don't have to eat celery for the rest of your life.

If (for example) you usually eat 20 chips and six fish fingers eat 10 chips and three fish fingers.

Rinse and repeat with everything you eat...the weight will definitely come off......it's got to do if you think about it.

You will notice your belly shrink in a month or so.

stevensdrs

3,264 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Some good and some terrible advice on this thread.

The best way to shift the weight initially is to only eat protein foods. Meat, Fish, Broccoli Cauliflower, Cheese Eggs and nuts. Eat 400 calories of that for breakfast and lunch and 800 for dinner. Nothing other than a few nuts in between. No alcohol at all.
If you stick to it you will lose a lot of weight in the first few weeks, 20lb plus, and then about 1-2lb a week afterwards.
Exercise other than walking should not be attempted until your BM index is not in the obese range. When it is in the normal range then more strenuous exercise can be attempted to tone the body.
After attaining your target weight you can have the occasional carb treat but you cannot go back to eating junk food as the weight will come back with a vengeance.

soad

34,646 posts

205 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Less beer. Or cut it out together.

MC Bodge

29,625 posts

204 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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stevensdrs said:
Some good and some terrible advice on this thread.

The best way to shift the weight initially is to only eat protein foods. Meat, Fish, Broccoli Cauliflower, Cheese Eggs and nuts. Eat 400 calories of that for breakfast and lunch and 800 for dinner. Nothing other than a few nuts in between. No alcohol at all.
If you stick to it you will lose a lot of weight in the first few weeks, 20lb plus, and then about 1-2lb a week afterwards.
Exercise other than walking should not be attempted until your BM index is not in the obese range. When it is in the normal range then more strenuous exercise can be attempted to tone the body.
After attaining your target weight you can have the occasional carb treat but you cannot go back to eating junk food as the weight will come back with a vengeance.
Cycling and swimming should be OK even for very large people.


Kawasicki

14,363 posts

264 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
You don't need to go on a diet as such.

Two words. Portion sizes.

You don't have to eat celery for the rest of your life.

If (for example) you usually eat 20 chips and six fish fingers eat 10 chips and three fish fingers.

Rinse and repeat with everything you eat...the weight will definitely come off......it's got to do if you think about it.

You will notice your belly shrink in a month or so.
I wanted to lose a couple of kg, I did this, it worked...and fast too!

ambuletz

11,749 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th May 2018
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most of these comments annoy me. 'the best way is to <insert a diet of foods that is a load of specific nonsene>. it's all horse crap.

you lose weight through a calorie deficit. how you go about it is up to you. the reason for this is sometimes a drastic diet change isn't realistic/sustainable for many.

You could be a picky eater who eats nothing but 25 slices of bread a day. cut that down to 20 or less and you're losing weight.

there are obvious reasons for eating healthy long term sure. but nobody is going to change over night.