Car derived van speed limits
Discussion
One option for work vehicle is an Outlander van. Looks like a car drives like a car but as it's gross vehicle weight is over 2 tonnes speed limit is 50 on single carriageways and 60 on dual carriageway A roads.
Question is how likely is that to be picked up? Is APNR that smart yet? Obviously if you get caught then speed will be from the lower limits but how many people driving vans get booked at 60 in a nsl single or 70 in a nsl dual A road?
Bizarrely a double cab pickup is same as a car despite not stopping or going as well...
Vet who does large mileages often on way to emergencies so this does make a difference.
Any thoughts gratefully received!
Question is how likely is that to be picked up? Is APNR that smart yet? Obviously if you get caught then speed will be from the lower limits but how many people driving vans get booked at 60 in a nsl single or 70 in a nsl dual A road?
Bizarrely a double cab pickup is same as a car despite not stopping or going as well...
Vet who does large mileages often on way to emergencies so this does make a difference.
Any thoughts gratefully received!
I wouldn’t pay too much attention to gross vehicle weight in this instance. My Hyundai i800 van based people carrier is over 2 tons gross but is tested as a normal car.
The ultimate answer may be in the description of your vehicle on your v5. As above if it looks like a car then it’s car speed limits.
The ultimate answer may be in the description of your vehicle on your v5. As above if it looks like a car then it’s car speed limits.
Edited by BlueMeganeII on Wednesday 9th May 19:42
If it's a goods vehicle and it's over 2 tonnes GVW, it'll be subject to lower speed limits (irrespective if it is car derived or not).
Whether or not you'd be pinged with lower limits in mind is a gamble you'd have to take.
However, as Bill has suggested above, if it's 4WD and has an unladen weight of less than 2040kg, it would qualify as dual-purpose - and lower limits do not apply to DPVs.
Whether or not you'd be pinged with lower limits in mind is a gamble you'd have to take.
However, as Bill has suggested above, if it's 4WD and has an unladen weight of less than 2040kg, it would qualify as dual-purpose - and lower limits do not apply to DPVs.
BlueMeganeII said:
The ultimate answer may be in the description of your vehicle on your v5.
The ultimate answer is how the vehicle has been constructed or adapted, not how it is described on a V5.Edited by SS2. on Wednesday 9th May 20:10
SS2. said:
The ultimate answer is how the vehicle has been constructed or adapted, not how it is described on a V5.
"If your van is a CDV, it will be recorded as such under ‘body type’ on the vehicle’s registration document (V5C). If there is any other entry under ‘body type’ the vehicle is not registered as a car derived van and will be subject to speeds lower than the national limits."Alucidnation said:
SS2. said:
The ultimate answer is how the vehicle has been constructed or adapted, not how it is described on a V5.
"If your van is a CDV, it will be recorded as such under ‘body type’ on the vehicle’s registration document (V5C). If there is any other entry under ‘body type’ the vehicle is not registered as a car derived van and will be subject to speeds lower than the national limits."Neither does Nigel Worc's..
I’ve got a 2013 VW T5 sportline that should be kept to the 50 and 60 speed limits.
I’ve only had one speeding ticket for 84mph on the A3 from the mobile van.
No idea if the three points were for being 24 or 14 mph over the limit but I still average 70-80 on smart motorways when it’s possible.
I’ve only had one speeding ticket for 84mph on the A3 from the mobile van.
No idea if the three points were for being 24 or 14 mph over the limit but I still average 70-80 on smart motorways when it’s possible.
SS2. said:
Alucidnation said:
SS2. said:
The ultimate answer is how the vehicle has been constructed or adapted, not how it is described on a V5.
"If your van is a CDV, it will be recorded as such under ‘body type’ on the vehicle’s registration document (V5C). If there is any other entry under ‘body type’ the vehicle is not registered as a car derived van and will be subject to speeds lower than the national limits."Neither does Nigel Worc's..
SS2. said:
Pooh said:
I got done for 68 in a 60 in my Citroen Berlingo van and the ticket stated 68 in a 50, my van is car based but is registered as a light goods vehicle.
That may be because Citroen themselves appear to classify the Berlingo as a van derived car, not the other way around.Pooh said:
SS2. said:
Pooh said:
I got done for 68 in a 60 in my Citroen Berlingo van and the ticket stated 68 in a 50, my van is car based but is registered as a light goods vehicle.
That may be because Citroen themselves appear to classify the Berlingo as a van derived car, not the other way around.AIUI, the Citroen classification is because the van preceded the car.
SS2. said:
Pooh said:
SS2. said:
Pooh said:
I got done for 68 in a 60 in my Citroen Berlingo van and the ticket stated 68 in a 50, my van is car based but is registered as a light goods vehicle.
That may be because Citroen themselves appear to classify the Berlingo as a van derived car, not the other way around.Pooh said:
SS2. said:
Pooh said:
SS2. said:
Pooh said:
I got done for 68 in a 60 in my Citroen Berlingo van and the ticket stated 68 in a 50, my van is car based but is registered as a light goods vehicle.
That may be because Citroen themselves appear to classify the Berlingo as a van derived car, not the other way around.SS2. said:
GVWs are entirely moot if the Berlingo isn't considered to be 'car derived'.
It is based on a car platform and I have read that it is all down to the GVW and how it is registered by the dealer so all Berlingo vans are not subject to the same speed limits. Regardless of this, the whole van speed limit situation is a confusing mess that needs to be sorted out.
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