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ian in lancs

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3,853 posts

228 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Fylde Police "This little darling fancied himself as Colin McRae when taking his dads Subaru out for a spin on a tranquil spring night on Mythop Road in Weeton.

The only issue is that he isn't Colin McRae, he is a 17 year old who had recently just passed his test with little driving experience. He lost control on a bend and went head on with a van with two builders inside.

  1. team4 #immediateresponse officers were called to the scene, along with ambulance colleagues. The driver of the Subaru was arrested and the chaps in the van taken to hospital with luckily minor injuries. It quickly emerged his dad didn't know his lad had swiped his keys when he was out.
On 10/05/18 a 17 year old from Manchester appeared at Blackpool Magistrates court and pleaded guilty to aggravated vehicle taking. He was sentenced to a 6 month Youth Offending Team referral order and banned from the road for 12 months.

On a serious note, its quite clear the chaps in the van suffered minor injuries because they were both wearing their seatbelts so please take note and belt up as its someone else` mistake that may cost you dearly."


dhutch

17,828 posts

227 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Indeed

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

277 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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I am not clear on something here.

The article states that the kid swipes his dads keys while his dad was out, and that he got charged with aggravated vehicle taking?

Doesn't aggravated theft mean that violence, or at least the threat of violence was used during the theft?

Bigends

6,168 posts

158 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
I am not clear on something here.

The article states that the kid swipes his dads keys while his dad was out, and that he got charged with aggravated vehicle taking?

Doesn't aggravated theft mean that violence, or at least the threat of violence was used during the theft?
No, it means that the driver caused injury to someone or damage to another vehicle or property whilst driving the car without consent

Red 4

10,744 posts

217 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Bigends said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
I am not clear on something here.

The article states that the kid swipes his dads keys while his dad was out, and that he got charged with aggravated vehicle taking?

Doesn't aggravated theft mean that violence, or at least the threat of violence was used during the theft?
No, it means that the driver caused injury to someone or damage to another vehicle or property whilst driving the car without consent
In this case, yes - But Aggravated UTMV covers more than that:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/secti...

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

277 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Every day is a school day.

Ta.

carinaman

25,206 posts

202 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Thank you for the informative posts.

Gameface

16,565 posts

107 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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ian in lancs said:
On a serious note, its quite clear the chaps in the van suffered minor injuries because they were both wearing their seatbelts so please take note and belt up as its someone else` mistake that may cost you dearly."
You should watch crash detectives on iPlayer:-

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b0x9kc via @bbciplayer

Thread about it here:-

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

speedking31

3,925 posts

166 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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The police said the thief wasn't Colin McRae, but actually he was exactly like Colin McRae wink

ian in lancs

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3,853 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Gameface said:
ian in lancs said:
On a serious note, its quite clear the chaps in the van suffered minor injuries because they were both wearing their seatbelts so please take note and belt up as its someone else` mistake that may cost you dearly."
You should watch crash detectives on iPlayer:-

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b0x9kc via @bbciplayer

Thread about it here:-

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Thanks for those links. Absolutely fascinating series.

Gameface

16,565 posts

107 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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You can see why I thought of the series when you mentioned wearing seatbelts!

LarsG

991 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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When I was 17 the accident wouldn't have been survivable in the cars that I was driving.

LarsG

991 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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The offence of taking the vehicle with aggravating circumstances would be separate to the offences surrounding the accident such as driving without due care, exceeding the speed limit, no insurance etc.

So please tell me how taking a vehicle is the same offence as crashing it?

There is an assumption that he was driving dangerously and it was he that caused the damage rather than the van that may have been overtaking on a blind bend.

Either way he's in bother.

Edited by LarsG on Wednesday 16th May 08:14

The Surveyor

7,624 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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LarsG said:
When I was 17 the accident wouldn't have been survivable in the cars that I was driving.
When I was 17, the cars I was driving wouldn't have been able to go that fast.