Petrolgate hits Porsche?
Discussion
Twinfan said:
Looks like I sold my 987.2 Spyder just in time....
The GT4 is already bankrupting me with its huge VED, and mega-crappy fuel consumption.... Not sure I could have handled a road tax hike on the Spyder as well....!!They say the car was driven from standstill in 2nd gear for the test. Now I can see that for the pdk (and we know a lot of the reason for the pdk was to allow manufactures to help reduce the impact of emissions tests) but the manual has the same ved?
I can't imagine the manual was driven from standstill in second ?
I can't imagine the manual was driven from standstill in second ?
briang9 said:
Unless you're on benefits, which if you have a Porsche would seem unlikely IMHO..is £18.75 a month really going to make that much difference?


That was exactly my thought when I first read this. Who, in the market for a Cayman R, would really care about that difference!?
Although, I would imagine this probably hints at a wider scheme whereby Porsche, and other manufacturers, used this specific tactic to alter its emissions results and that the Cayman R is just the first car to have had it confirmed.
MrBarry123 said:
Although, I would imagine this probably hints at a wider scheme whereby Porsche, and other manufacturers, used this specific tactic to alter its emissions results and that the Cayman R is just the first car to have had it confirmed.
Exactly, it would surely trigger wider investigation.....briang9 said:
Unless you're on benefits, which if you have a Porsche would seem unlikely IMHO..is £18.75 a month really going to make that much difference?

Not really the point is it? I begrudge giving the taxman another £20 a month, just because I've worked hard and saved for a Porsche! Especially when mine (when I get it) will do around 3-5k miles a year. Whereas, someone with a polluting diseisel might do 20-30k miles, paying less than £200 for the privilege...Jim1556 said:
briang9 said:
Unless you're on benefits, which if you have a Porsche would seem unlikely IMHO..is £18.75 a month really going to make that much difference?

Not really the point is it? I begrudge giving the taxman another £20 a month, just because I've worked hard and saved for a Porsche! Especially when mine (when I get it) will do around 3-5k miles a year. Whereas, someone with a polluting diseisel might do 20-30k miles, paying less than £200 for the privilege...Good point above, if the test was more representative of the way a car is actually driven, in a way that can be replicated for every car then IMO they could allocate tax bands more appropriately.
I don't mean, for example, hooning a Porsche around, then driving gently and considerately in a Saab. But something like going from 0-70 in 20 seconds then back to 0 in 20 seconds would give you a good average emissions value representative of going through all the gears in an everyday situation.
Not sure the existing test is representative and would stand up to much scientific scrutiny.
I don't mean, for example, hooning a Porsche around, then driving gently and considerately in a Saab. But something like going from 0-70 in 20 seconds then back to 0 in 20 seconds would give you a good average emissions value representative of going through all the gears in an everyday situation.
Not sure the existing test is representative and would stand up to much scientific scrutiny.
There was always something fishy going on with these anyways, can't folk remember the eGas 2nd gear dead zone when they first came out?
I could get it to do it, car in second at 1600-2000 and then stamp on the throttle and nothing would happen. Nothing.
You had to get off the accelerator in order to get it moving. One poster on here took it very seriously (IIRC) as he nearly got T-Boned pulling away from a roundabout and got caught out.
I could get it to do it, car in second at 1600-2000 and then stamp on the throttle and nothing would happen. Nothing.
You had to get off the accelerator in order to get it moving. One poster on here took it very seriously (IIRC) as he nearly got T-Boned pulling away from a roundabout and got caught out.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
There was always something fishy going on with these anyways, can't folk remember the eGas 2nd gear dead zone when they first came out?
I could get it to do it, car in second at 1600-2000 and then stamp on the throttle and nothing would happen. Nothing.
You had to get off the accelerator in order to get it moving. One poster on here took it very seriously (IIRC) as he nearly got T-Boned pulling away from a roundabout and got caught out.
I think it’s in 4th gear at 1750 revs so you never see it in real life and was not worth talking about.I could get it to do it, car in second at 1600-2000 and then stamp on the throttle and nothing would happen. Nothing.
You had to get off the accelerator in order to get it moving. One poster on here took it very seriously (IIRC) as he nearly got T-Boned pulling away from a roundabout and got caught out.
Any one in 4th at those revs wants shooting, that's bad for the engine and called lugging.
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 18th May 08:33
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