Help for a first time inexperienced buyer
Discussion
Hey folks, I've decided to take the plunge and spend my savings on getting myself driving at the age of 32. Currently in the middle of fairly intensive lessons with a high likelihood of being licensed next month.
I'm looking to buy my first car in cash with the rest of the savings with a budget of around £2000/2500.
My problem is that I'm inexperienced (practically clueless) when it comes to the cars. I think I'm fairly up to speed with the right things to go for in terms of a first time car for my first few of years on the road. My problem is that taking the plunge and actually going for something feels like a minefield and I want to minimise the risk when spending the last of my savings.
I've finally settled on something where I'm as comfortable as I can be that It's coming from a reliable dealer and at a decent price but I wondered if I could have thoughts on whether I'm on the right track. I've included a link to the car. I've also included details of the MOT's. Fails and advisories have happened 4 times in it's history with it consistently passing with no faults or advisories days later. I've only included details of the 4 fail years to minimise unnecessary info.
I was also considering paying for an AA inspection prior to any purchase.
With everything you guys can see here. What advice do you have? Any would be greatly appreciated. I suppose I'm really hoping for folk with more knowledge to say whether this would look like a good prospect if they were a first time buyer with this budget.
The car can be seen here: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
MOT history
2018 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Nearside Headlamp aim beam image obviously incorrect (1.8.A.1b)
Offside Front coil spring broken (2.4.C.1a)
Offside Front Macpherson strut has excessive movement in the upper support bearing assembly (2.5.B.1b)
Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3)
Parking brake lever has no reserve travel (3.1.6b)
2014 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Centre Exhaust system not adequately supported (7.1.1)
Rear An item not tested (Manual)
Advisory notice item(s)
Rear registration plate deteriorated but not likely to be misread (6.3.1d)
2013 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Nearside Rear position lamp(s) not working (1.1.A.3b)
Nearside Front constant velocity joint gaiter insecure to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc (2.5.C.1a)
Offside Front constant velocity joint gaiter insecure to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc (2.5.C.1a)
Rear Exhaust system not adequately supported (7.1.1)
Offside Rear Mechanical brake component has restricted free movement (3.5.1k)
Advisory notice item(s)
Front Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g)
2011 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3)
Advisory notice item(s)
Nearside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
I'm looking to buy my first car in cash with the rest of the savings with a budget of around £2000/2500.
My problem is that I'm inexperienced (practically clueless) when it comes to the cars. I think I'm fairly up to speed with the right things to go for in terms of a first time car for my first few of years on the road. My problem is that taking the plunge and actually going for something feels like a minefield and I want to minimise the risk when spending the last of my savings.
I've finally settled on something where I'm as comfortable as I can be that It's coming from a reliable dealer and at a decent price but I wondered if I could have thoughts on whether I'm on the right track. I've included a link to the car. I've also included details of the MOT's. Fails and advisories have happened 4 times in it's history with it consistently passing with no faults or advisories days later. I've only included details of the 4 fail years to minimise unnecessary info.
I was also considering paying for an AA inspection prior to any purchase.
With everything you guys can see here. What advice do you have? Any would be greatly appreciated. I suppose I'm really hoping for folk with more knowledge to say whether this would look like a good prospect if they were a first time buyer with this budget.
The car can be seen here: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
MOT history
2018 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Nearside Headlamp aim beam image obviously incorrect (1.8.A.1b)
Offside Front coil spring broken (2.4.C.1a)
Offside Front Macpherson strut has excessive movement in the upper support bearing assembly (2.5.B.1b)
Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3)
Parking brake lever has no reserve travel (3.1.6b)
2014 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Centre Exhaust system not adequately supported (7.1.1)
Rear An item not tested (Manual)
Advisory notice item(s)
Rear registration plate deteriorated but not likely to be misread (6.3.1d)
2013 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Nearside Rear position lamp(s) not working (1.1.A.3b)
Nearside Front constant velocity joint gaiter insecure to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc (2.5.C.1a)
Offside Front constant velocity joint gaiter insecure to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc (2.5.C.1a)
Rear Exhaust system not adequately supported (7.1.1)
Offside Rear Mechanical brake component has restricted free movement (3.5.1k)
Advisory notice item(s)
Front Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g)
2011 Fail
Reason(s) for failure
Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3)
Advisory notice item(s)
Nearside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
If - as the advert claims - the car has been maintained over recent years by them, it's probably not had the most detailed servicing a car could have. A car that is regularly serviced really shouldn't be failing an MOT because there is no travel left on the handbrake.
On the other hand, I have a feeling none of my cars have ever come back from a service with an adjusted handbrake so maybe it doesn't mean too much.
On the other hand, I have a feeling none of my cars have ever come back from a service with an adjusted handbrake so maybe it doesn't mean too much.
Hyundai i20 worth a look:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Focus pretty dependable:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Yaris:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Focus pretty dependable:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Yaris:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
steveo3002 said:
small petrol honda or toyota
This. Jazz or Yaris. You're statistically likely to bend it in some fashion in your first year (you pass your test, then you learn to drive), so don't buy the shiniest thing you can find for the top end of your budget. Nice cars can come later :-)
I'd say look at the Astra they're good cars sensibly priced & decent cars:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I forgot to say be prepared to travel because the best car won't always be on your doorstep.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I forgot to say be prepared to travel because the best car won't always be on your doorstep.
You should seek out tips for negotiating too.
The AA chap will at least spot that the wheels aren’t made of plastic, and anything he does spot should help with negotiations.
Even if you really like a car, don’t show it too much.
Get to the bank before you go and bring cash.
Have what you want to pay for it already rolled up in one pocket ready to offer.
Search for other threads in that topic.
The AA chap will at least spot that the wheels aren’t made of plastic, and anything he does spot should help with negotiations.
Even if you really like a car, don’t show it too much.
Get to the bank before you go and bring cash.
Have what you want to pay for it already rolled up in one pocket ready to offer.
Search for other threads in that topic.
Have a read of the thread below it will help with suggestions on what to keep an eye out for.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
As others have said - I'd be looking for a petrol. If you're just going about the town with the odd longer journey the theoretical efficiency gains of diesel will be lost, and you put yourself in line for DPF issues. Also the M8 doesn't often allow you to get up to the speeds where diesel comes into it's own...
I passed my test aged 29 and my first car was a petrol Fiesta (56 plate 1.25 Zetec) and it was pretty much the ideal first car. Nippy, reliable, great steering/handling, never got stuck in snow and cheap to repair (when someone went down the street booting wing mirrors off cars...)
Biggest motoring mistake I ever made was chopping it after a year for a 6 month old 1.8 Astra Sri (59 plate), which got punted within 6 months for a Mini. Nothing technically wrong with the Astra, just hated it.
If I was to look for a first car again now at 35, I'd probably go straight for a Suzuki Swift - ideally the Sport - although I've never actually driven one!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I passed my test aged 29 and my first car was a petrol Fiesta (56 plate 1.25 Zetec) and it was pretty much the ideal first car. Nippy, reliable, great steering/handling, never got stuck in snow and cheap to repair (when someone went down the street booting wing mirrors off cars...)
Biggest motoring mistake I ever made was chopping it after a year for a 6 month old 1.8 Astra Sri (59 plate), which got punted within 6 months for a Mini. Nothing technically wrong with the Astra, just hated it.
If I was to look for a first car again now at 35, I'd probably go straight for a Suzuki Swift - ideally the Sport - although I've never actually driven one!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Edited by ilikejam on Thursday 24th May 11:15
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