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Marty Funkhouser

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5,443 posts

211 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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This is fantastic - a lot of the pointless emails I get are now going to cease....can we do this once a year???

Cotty

42,243 posts

314 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Pity we can't do it with physical junk mail that comes though the letter box.

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Marty Funkhouser said:
This is fantastic - a lot of the pointless emails I get are now going to cease....can we do this once a year???
I'm getting a huge amount of "we won't be able to keep in touch with you" emails. Thank fk, I never asked to be on your stty mailing list anyway ranting

IanCress

4,409 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Cotty said:
Pity we can't do it with physical junk mail that comes though the letter box.
If the letters are personally addressed to you then these should cease as well. Maybe everything will just be addressed to 'the homeowner' from now on.

eltax91

10,763 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Marty Funkhouser said:
This is fantastic - a lot of the pointless emails I get are now going to cease....can we do this once a year???
Don't need to do it once a year, do we? They can't hold your details after 25th May unless you opt-in, can they?

Puggit

49,804 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Too many emails saying 'last chance to stay in contact' mad

JDuck

276 posts

211 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Lots of firms are claiming legitmate interest, which they argue means they can continue sending you stuff.

It all depends whether the regulator punishes wrongdoers - very unlikely in my opinion.

LordGrover

34,169 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Bureaucratic bks.
Clearly upsides for many, but for small B2Bs a royal PITA.

Puggit

49,804 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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JDuck said:
Lots of firms are claiming legitmate interest, which they argue means they can continue sending you stuff.

It all depends whether the regulator punishes wrongdoers - very unlikely in my opinion.
Is it an EU regulator? They need to earn a bit more cash...

dimots

3,241 posts

120 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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There are very good reasons for doing this now. The looming threat of big data hacks is the main one I guess. Piece together enough information with enough computing power and the possibilities are endless. Without adopting a cryptographic banking system it is conceivable that every bank account in the UK could be hacked and cleared out overnight.

Marty Funkhouser

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

211 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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dimots said:
There are very good reasons for doing this now. The looming threat of big data hacks is the main one I guess. Piece together enough information with enough computing power and the possibilities are endless. Without adopting a cryptographic banking system it is conceivable that every bank account in the UK could be hacked and cleared out overnight.
F**k doomsday - I'm just happy that 90% of the non stop marketing "last chance sale" "See our new range" etc etc emails will stop.

jingars

1,228 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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All together now...

"He's making a list,
He's checking it twice,
He's gonna find out who's naughty or nice,
Santa Claus is in contravention of article 4 of the General Data Protection Regulation (EU) 2016/679."

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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jingars said:
All together now...

"He's making a list,
He's checking it twice,
He's gonna find out who's naughty or nice,
Santa Claus is in contravention of article 4 of the General Data Protection Regulation (EU) 2016/679."
Although the North Pole is not in Europe so is he actually liable for it? or do you subscribe to the notion that he lives in Lapland?

kev1974

4,030 posts

159 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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JDuck said:
Lots of firms are claiming legitmate interest, which they argue means they can continue sending you stuff.

It all depends whether the regulator punishes wrongdoers - very unlikely in my opinion.
Is there a "plain English" interpretation of this Legitimate Interest workaround anywhere?

I've googled and read what the ICO have to say on it, and their pages on it are woollier than ever.


For me the most eye opening thing about it all, is how disorganised so many companies seem to be? They've had two years to get their stuff together on this, so why are so many emailing me today about it, the day before it goes live? Big black mark for lots of companies.

Puggit

49,804 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Shakermaker said:
Although the North Pole is not in Europe so is he actually liable for it? or do you subscribe to the notion that he lives in Lapland?
He's dealing with 'customers' in the EU...

Prizam

2,447 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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jingars said:
All together now...

"He's making a list,
He's checking it twice,
He's gonna find out who's naughty or nice,
Santa Claus is in contravention of article 4 of the General Data Protection Regulation (EU) 2016/679."
Technically no, All those letters that were sent to Santa were a defined act of communication and not an accident. So could be treated as an "opt-in".

So long as Santa goes to adequate lengths to protect your data, and removes it if you ask to be "forgotten", he's golden. Or red.... whatever.

Robbo 27

4,293 posts

129 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Just had an interesting exchange with Marks and Spencers on release of personal data including what I buy using this Sparks card. They say that they can pass on anything they want as long as it to a Trusted Partner and that this is allowed in the Terms and Conditions, there is also no opt out from the customers point of view.

Good Luck with that M and S, making money are ya?

tbourner

129 posts

101 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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There are a lot of get-outs for companies, particularly if you are willingly using their services (such as with a loyalty card) - they can pretty much do what they want with your data as you've allowed them to by signing up to the service. You can of course demand to be forgotten under GDPR but then your loyalty card stops working and you lose all your points.

Europa1

10,923 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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JDuck said:
Lots of firms are claiming legitmate interest, which they argue means they can continue sending you stuff.

It all depends whether the regulator punishes wrongdoers - very unlikely in my opinion.
I suspect the ICO is massively under-resourced to fully police GDPR, given the new breach reporting regime.

Zoon

7,304 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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kev1974 said:
Is there a "plain English" interpretation of this Legitimate Interest workaround anywhere?
To me it seems to be a nonsense regulation which will get abused using grey areas and not policed properly.