Another good read

[deltafox]

"3.9.6 Henk Tromp is a civil engineer with the Dutch firm Goudappel Coffeng. He told the Study Group that at present the Dutch focus is ‘regional’ roads(single lane highways with an 80 kph speed limit) and main city roads around traffic lights. Trees alongside regional roads are being removed, in a programme that will take a couple of years. In addition, on long stretches of road overtaking will be prohibited.3.9.7 In the cities many traffic lights are being replaced by safer roundabouts orgive way junctions. At the moment there is a lot of discussion about the priority for bicycles at roundabouts. Giving priority to cyclists has proved to be seven times more dangerous than ordering them to give way. 3.9.8 In Holland there is a great deal of public opposition to speed cameras. A Dutch scientific safety organisation has recently recommended an increase to maximum speeds on roads where there are few or no accidents. 3.9.9 There is little use of repeater signs in Holland. Generally, areas are marked with a single sign in order to allow the police to write speeding tickets although lanes are sometimes marked with speed limits."

Full article here with comments from Durham's CC.

Choose PDF R08 at the bottom section of the page.

http://itsacr02a.nottscc.gov.uk/apps/pr/diary/memdiary.nsf/0/B41AC3F195F2A74380256E360035EE00/$file/r08_traffic%20calming%20study%20group.pdf

[mybrainhurts]

cloggies said:

Trees alongside regional roads are being removed, in a programme that will take a couple of years.

Hurrah.....

cloggies said:

In addition, on long stretches of road overtaking will be prohibited.

Boo......

cloggies said:

Giving priority to cyclists has proved to be seven times more dangerous than ordering them to give way.

Hurrah.....

cloggies said:

In Holland there is a great deal of public opposition to speed cameras. A Dutch scientific safety organisation has recently recommended an increase to maximum speeds on roads where there are few or no accidents.

Hurrah.....

[Peter Ward]

cloggies said:

In addition, on long stretches of road overtaking will be prohibited.

Isn't this what we've been fearing for some time? I think it was the subject of an April 1st joke last year.

The trouble is, some warped people think that forcing overtaking away from safe straight roads to more dangerous winding roads will in some way improve safety.

Once they find out they're wrong, the only outcome will be to prohibit overtaking in even more places, rather than admit they're wrong and back off.

[james_j]

Peter Ward said:

Once they find out they're wrong, the only outcome will be to prohibit overtaking in even more places, rather than admit they're wrong and back off.

The very same mentality that shows no reduction, and often an increase in deaths when speed limits are reduced (and cameras installed of course)...rather than admit they're wrong, they reduce limits further (there are, of course, revenue implications in this instance).